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<blockquote data-quote="Kilmore" data-source="post: 428903" data-attributes="member: 5226">Anyone remember way back in 1st ed. when a character's maximum strength was limited by both race and gender?&nbsp; Female halflings could only have a 14 Strength!&nbsp; Ahhh, the '70's.&nbsp; Not many game producers would dare suggest that today.&nbsp; What made it worse was that there was no bonus to counter the Str &quot;glass ceiling&quot; for female characters.Anyways, in my campaign, there is a women's organization that is largely responsible for asserting female equality in all careers, most notably as fighters, as one of the main things they do is train their girls in the arts of sword fighting.&nbsp; But in all classes, the current (in game time) equality of opportunities in all major classes is due to their influence.&nbsp; But males are not welcome to join.IRL, I've been in a position where women were not allowed for a very practical reason.&nbsp; About 12 years ago I was in the ballistic missile program of the Submarine service in the US Navy.&nbsp; That meant going out &quot;on patrol&quot; for three months at a time was a part of my job description.&nbsp; I don't believe that anyone I ever talked to had doubts about a woman's ability to do the work that was required on a sub, but it was honestly tough to see how a co-ed crew would work on board.&nbsp; Military discipline could only be so helpful, especially on a ship full of &quot;old boys&quot;.&nbsp; One of the problems was trying to figure out how to seperate thirty year old vessels into male and female facilities.&nbsp; Something to think about in those space games.BTW, I don't know if they've since worked that out.&nbsp; I hope so.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kilmore, post: 428903, member: 5226"] Anyone remember way back in 1st ed. when a character's maximum strength was limited by both race and gender? Female halflings could only have a 14 Strength! Ahhh, the '70's. Not many game producers would dare suggest that today. What made it worse was that there was no bonus to counter the Str "glass ceiling" for female characters. Anyways, in my campaign, there is a women's organization that is largely responsible for asserting female equality in all careers, most notably as fighters, as one of the main things they do is train their girls in the arts of sword fighting. But in all classes, the current (in game time) equality of opportunities in all major classes is due to their influence. But males are not welcome to join. IRL, I've been in a position where women were not allowed for a very practical reason. About 12 years ago I was in the ballistic missile program of the Submarine service in the US Navy. That meant going out "on patrol" for three months at a time was a part of my job description. I don't believe that anyone I ever talked to had doubts about a woman's ability to do the work that was required on a sub, but it was honestly tough to see how a co-ed crew would work on board. Military discipline could only be so helpful, especially on a ship full of "old boys". One of the problems was trying to figure out how to seperate thirty year old vessels into male and female facilities. Something to think about in those space games. BTW, I don't know if they've since worked that out. I hope so. [/QUOTE]

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