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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9605026" data-attributes="member: 6716779">I'm getting it. I'm saying I've seen newer players struggle with level 7 let alone 10.  Sure I could start at level 10 but I'm expecting a disaster.  They're all either rusty or inexperienced. I've got 1 very experienced player and1 veteran player over 3 groups. The veteran likes the champion. I has 1 campaign fall apart because two for the funnies type players annoyed the other 4 (including the DM as one of 4).  By funsies I mean melee druids who weren't moon druids and a very badly played warlock built wrong.   Otherwise I'm looking at a couple of smarter players or veterans of AD&D who recently started playing after 20 odd years. Last played 2002 or the 90s.</blockquote>