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<blockquote data-quote="AlViking" data-source="post: 9605122" data-attributes="member: 6906980">Or take a shower after you swim.My point is that if you don't like high level play, that's fine.&nbsp; That doesn't mean it's an issue with the rules. Running a good game doesn't require the GM controlling anything. If you feel the need to manipulate your players it's an issue with your approach to the game, not the game itself. That's what I was objecting to and I don't think it has anything to do with high level play.&nbsp; IMO of course. I figure out what the bad guys are doing, what their capabilities are, how they might counter or react to what the characters do.&nbsp; If I can come up with counters, great. If not and the characters unexpectedly win the day I adjust accordingly. What I don't do is plan out plot lines or have anything predetermined.&nbsp; If you're running a module there's often a bit of that but that requires player buy in that some things are going to be at least a little linear. In my home brew bring on the craziness and I'll deal with it. Just don't be surprised if the enemy also has powerful abilities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AlViking, post: 9605122, member: 6906980"] Or take a shower after you swim. My point is that if you don't like high level play, that's fine. That doesn't mean it's an issue with the rules. Running a good game doesn't require the GM controlling anything. If you feel the need to manipulate your players it's an issue with your approach to the game, not the game itself. That's what I was objecting to and I don't think it has anything to do with high level play. IMO of course. I figure out what the bad guys are doing, what their capabilities are, how they might counter or react to what the characters do. If I can come up with counters, great. If not and the characters unexpectedly win the day I adjust accordingly. What I don't do is plan out plot lines or have anything predetermined. If you're running a module there's often a bit of that but that requires player buy in that some things are going to be at least a little linear. In my home brew bring on the craziness and I'll deal with it. Just don't be surprised if the enemy also has powerful abilities. [/QUOTE]

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