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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1538246" data-attributes="member: 5777">This isnt true no matter which version of the rules you use. Skill points do not change retroactively, that rule is in the phb. So, once you spend your skill points, that were gained at the appropriate time, it is done and over with.There is no headache about having to worry. All you have to do is figure out how long you have to have the bonus before getting the bonus from leveling. Once that is done then there is nothing more to worry about.If what you said above were true, then I could simply cast touch of idiocy on myself, lose some skill points, wait for the spell to expire, and then respend all of my skill points. However, this does not work in either case.I dont like they change about having the magic item not grant skill points anymore, it seems heavily artificial. How come con increases hp but I cant get more skill points? Effectively the change is exactly the same, but one has a special case. Can I actually lift more? Am I more charismatic? There isnt any real reason to disallow it, just made up ones for no real reason. Personally I will simply keep it so that they can grant skill points. It gives the fighter types all the more reason to try to spend some money on something other than their normal primary equipment. Without the extra skill points there is effectively no reason for them to want it at all, seems like a pretty bad way to go.</blockquote>