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<blockquote data-quote="SpiderMonkey" data-source="post: 3672007" data-attributes="member: 11385">Huh.I don't think that discussing a starting a game at 3rd level by necessity negates the concepts of levels altogether.&nbsp; This argument is a classic example of the slippery slope fallacy.Mutants and Masterminds comes immediately to mind as the rebuttal.&nbsp; PCs start of at Power Level 10 as the default.&nbsp; This represents the fact that not everyone is a superhero.&nbsp; Regular police officers might be a 3 or 4 PL, supersweetninjas(l33t) might be as high as 6.&nbsp; Superman, however, is at a 15.&nbsp; If you want to play a street level game, start as a 7.&nbsp; Want to be in the Justice League? Go for 13.I think the thing to remember is that levels are not an absolute value, particularly as far as the PCs being used as the measuring stick.&nbsp; 1st and 2nd level NPCs are still out there as apprentices, novices, and perhaps even talented but untrained individuals.&nbsp; Starting at 3rd level is a good compromise between begin Uber, and somebody's sidekick.That being said, I still like first level. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="SpiderMonkey, post: 3672007, member: 11385"] Huh. I don't think that discussing a starting a game at 3rd level by necessity negates the concepts of levels altogether. This argument is a classic example of the slippery slope fallacy. Mutants and Masterminds comes immediately to mind as the rebuttal. PCs start of at Power Level 10 as the default. This represents the fact that not everyone is a superhero. Regular police officers might be a 3 or 4 PL, supersweetninjas(l33t) might be as high as 6. Superman, however, is at a 15. If you want to play a street level game, start as a 7. Want to be in the Justice League? Go for 13. I think the thing to remember is that levels are not an absolute value, particularly as far as the PCs being used as the measuring stick. 1st and 2nd level NPCs are still out there as apprentices, novices, and perhaps even talented but untrained individuals. Starting at 3rd level is a good compromise between begin Uber, and somebody's sidekick. That being said, I still like first level. :p [/QUOTE]

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