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Why do levels one and two suck so bad?
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<blockquote data-quote="Odnasept" data-source="post: 3672651" data-attributes="member: 27804"><p>As one who has played in more than one of Raven's campaigns (the Lakelands (as Firestar), which has thusfar gone to about 4th Level, and his World's Largest Dungeon campaign, which went to about 5th Level), both of which started at 1st Level, I would like to make a pair of points.</p><p></p><p>Firstly, I have found it quite possible to make a compelling backstory for a 1st Level PC and to have them gain some measure of fame or repute on the way to 2nd Level. The key to doing this lies not so much with the number of one's skills or abilities as it does with the nature of the world around them. As one previous poster complained, it isn't much fun being 1st Level in a world where most people are better than you at whatever it is you do. However, when most people are also 1st Level (admittedly creating a more AD&D feel) one can feel special even without gaining a lot of XP first.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, I find that levels are gained far too swiftly and easily if 1st and 2nd Level are lumped together as they are in this post. A 2nd Level character is often (with the exception of skill points and perhaps wealth) roughly twice as powerful as they were at 1st Level, and thus considerably more capable.</p><p></p><p>I also agree that a level earned is a level appreciated!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Odnasept, post: 3672651, member: 27804"] As one who has played in more than one of Raven's campaigns (the Lakelands (as Firestar), which has thusfar gone to about 4th Level, and his World's Largest Dungeon campaign, which went to about 5th Level), both of which started at 1st Level, I would like to make a pair of points. Firstly, I have found it quite possible to make a compelling backstory for a 1st Level PC and to have them gain some measure of fame or repute on the way to 2nd Level. The key to doing this lies not so much with the number of one's skills or abilities as it does with the nature of the world around them. As one previous poster complained, it isn't much fun being 1st Level in a world where most people are better than you at whatever it is you do. However, when most people are also 1st Level (admittedly creating a more AD&D feel) one can feel special even without gaining a lot of XP first. Secondly, I find that levels are gained far too swiftly and easily if 1st and 2nd Level are lumped together as they are in this post. A 2nd Level character is often (with the exception of skill points and perhaps wealth) roughly twice as powerful as they were at 1st Level, and thus considerably more capable. I also agree that a level earned is a level appreciated! [/QUOTE]
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