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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 8426333" data-attributes="member: 45197">Hiya!FYI, Monks did make a semi-come back in 2e...but it was in &quot;The Scarlet Brotherhood&quot; book for Greyhawk. The Scarlet Brotherhood is an organization of Suloise-Supremacist Monk/Assassins who use diplomacy, contracts, intimidation and, obviously, assassination, as a means to an end. They are a bit of a 'big thing' in Greyhawk (as far as anything is &quot;big&quot; in the Flanaess), so when 2e came out and they were all reduced to &quot;just fighters and thieves being meanies&quot; it kind of sucked the life out of them. I don't think any Greyhawk DM liked or accepted that (none I've ever heard about anyway), and so... they put out &quot;The Scarlet Brotherhood&quot; sourcebook that included the new Monk AND Assassin Classes (because, another FYI, Assassin was the other class they killed off when they went to 2e).For me, I let my players use &quot;Monk&quot; classes from either the PHB, the &quot;Monk&quot; class from a Dragon Magazine (Best of..., the gold one iirc, &quot;He's got a Lot to Kick about!&quot; was the article), or the &quot;Monk&quot; class from Oriental Adventures (with the additional MA schools from another Dragon Magazine). The PHB Monk, if someone chooses, are all Psionic, however....so there is that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />^_^Paul L. Ming</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pming, post: 8426333, member: 45197"] Hiya! FYI, Monks did make a semi-come back in 2e...but it was in "The Scarlet Brotherhood" book for Greyhawk. The Scarlet Brotherhood is an organization of Suloise-Supremacist Monk/Assassins who use diplomacy, contracts, intimidation and, obviously, assassination, as a means to an end. They are a bit of a 'big thing' in Greyhawk (as far as anything is "big" in the Flanaess), so when 2e came out and they were all reduced to "just fighters and thieves being meanies" it kind of sucked the life out of them. I don't think any Greyhawk DM liked or accepted that (none I've ever heard about anyway), and so... they put out "The Scarlet Brotherhood" sourcebook that included the new Monk AND Assassin Classes (because, another FYI, Assassin was the other class they killed off when they went to 2e). For me, I let my players use "Monk" classes from either the PHB, the "Monk" class from a Dragon Magazine (Best of..., the gold one iirc, "He's got a Lot to Kick about!" was the article), or the "Monk" class from Oriental Adventures (with the additional MA schools from another Dragon Magazine). The PHB Monk, if someone chooses, are all Psionic, however....so there is that. ;) ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]

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