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<blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 2186546" data-attributes="member: 5100">We were asked why we don't like them.&nbsp; You expected us to shower you with sunshine and lollipops?&nbsp; I, for one, haven't said anyone was wrong, nor have I seen anyone else among the non-planars do so -- although I'll admit there were a few messages I've only skimmed.&nbsp;&nbsp;And we've said, &quot;No, that doesn't fit with why we want to include planes.&nbsp; We want something else from them.&quot;&nbsp; At least, that was what I said.&nbsp;Truthfully, it feels more like the planar fans are evangelizing.&nbsp; And doing so in a rather poor way, or, at least, in a slightly passive-aggressive manner.&nbsp; I don't think any of the non-planar folks is going to be satisfied or interested in just moving our standard campaign to the planes.&nbsp; In fact, that's just exactly what I want to avoid.&nbsp;&nbsp;I must be on your ignore list, then.&nbsp;Most of what Celebrim said goes for me, too.&nbsp; At least enough of it that I don't mind the association.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mercule, post: 2186546, member: 5100"] We were [u]asked[/u] why we don't like them. You expected us to shower you with sunshine and lollipops? I, for one, haven't said anyone was wrong, nor have I seen anyone else among the non-planars do so -- although I'll admit there were a few messages I've only skimmed. And we've said, "No, that doesn't fit with why we want to include planes. We want something else from them." At least, that was what I said. Truthfully, it feels more like the planar fans are evangelizing. And doing so in a rather poor way, or, at least, in a slightly passive-aggressive manner. I don't think any of the non-planar folks is going to be satisfied or interested in just moving our standard campaign to the planes. In fact, that's just [u]exactly[/u] what I want to avoid. I must be on your ignore list, then. Most of what Celebrim said goes for me, too. At least enough of it that I don't mind the association. [/QUOTE]

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