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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunderstone" data-source="post: 3678776" data-attributes="member: 23497">As a former FR fanatic, I like Canon. Hearing legendary tales of heroes of old is fine imho. The problem is too many heroes of old are still around and active in both the novels and sourcebooks. The other big problem with FR is that the setting sourcebooks keep following the novels too closely making the information in the old sourcebooks fairly obsolete. Alot of material in the older FRCS is now outdated in newer sourcebooks.Take the recent events in Cormyr and the Silver Marches for example.Now back to the problem of the super-heroic, ultra-level, god-like NPC's (Elminster, Drizzt, Halaster etc). Now mix that with a good module (even if its a huge dungeon crawl) like City of the Spider Queen. It doesnt feel as epic as it should because its doubtful that the god-like Elminster would allow the dales to fall to such a threat without him and his horde of high-powered friends eventually stepping in. Believability factor that the PCs are the last hope of the dales plummets a little here.Could I work around that.... yes. Any creative DM can. BUT....1) How much of FR do I keep having to edit because of tom, dick, or harry's new novel(s)?2) Why keep altering this setting when some of my sourcebooks are already outdated?I had enough at that point.Since then, Ive decided to go back to Greyhawk. Minimal amount of work even with all the rich lore going around.BTW... the following is a partial list of my alterations (copied and pasted from a txt file Ive made) to FR before I just gave up on the setting....*The Simbul of Aglarond - Mysteriously catatonic. This kept secret from most of Aglarond.*Elminster - Out worldwalking. Looking for a cure for the Simbul. *Lady Alustriel of Silverymoon and Drizzt Do'Urden - Missing upon the last visit by Drizzt. No one has seen her or Drizzt leave Silverymoon. Some anti- Drizzt drow propaganda has circulated quietly.*Halaster Blackcloak and Undermountain - Removed, neither exists. Undermountain was too silly, Skullport should have also been under a less policed city.*Zhentarim - Fzoul Chembryl and the Banites maintain firm control over the Black Network. The Cyricists have all but been eradicated from Darkhold. A few Cyricists remain as spies pretending to be Banites. Sememmon and Ashemmi remain deserters and have no plans to return to the Black Network.*The Shadovar - The events that transpired at Evereska remain. The melting of the High Ice has not happened and the Shades have no plans of staying in Anauroch. The Battle at Tilverton happened but for the simpler reason of Conquest. Shade had wanted to establish a foothold in the centrally-located Cormyr. Since the destruction of Tilverton, Shade has retreated to Anauroch once more. Currently the Shadowvar are disturbingly quiet as they continue to gather intelligence in utmost secrecy, preferring to kill themselves over capture. *The Drow - The War of The Spider Queen has not happened. Lolth is still active. The events at Ched Nasad did occur however, with the smaller houses still making a bold attempt to seize power in a coup. Menzoberranzan however, has never been under siege. The Jaezred Chaulssin have always existed in secret and continue to hatch plots (one of which was the recent slave uprising) against the predominantly female menzoberranyr hierarchy in efforts to undermine their control.  Lolth continues to watch these events unfold to see if her subjects are worthy of survival and her attention all the while reveling in the chaos of these events.*King Obould - King Obould maintains a firm grasp of his humanoid hordes in the Spine of the World having lost the Citadel of Many Arrows. He has since set his sights on Mithril Hall as its location is closer and easier than striking in the middle of the Silver Marches to reclaim Citadel Felbarr. The Dwarves of Mithril Hall are largely unaware of the coming storm, but they have noticed increased humanoid and giant activity in the area.</blockquote>

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