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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 9740011" data-attributes="member: 6677017">Interesting take. I've tended to merge some personality elements into alignment, specifically the L/C axis. For instance, I have a friend who exhibits typically Chaotic things. He dispositionally very much considers the needs of the individual in a group rather than the whole. For instance, he naturally considers the right thing to do when GMing is make the whole group wait to while we do something for a new player (like make a character), even when it clearly means when don't get to play. (Whereas I see a group as an entity in and if itself to be respected, and would have the new player play a premade or just observe that session so as not to impose and disappoint everyone else.) For both of us, the C or L attitudes are something we might be able to explain, but in 3e terms, more something we recognize than consciously chose. He is also spontaneous, individualistic, and probably some other things that sound like stuff the books would classify as chaotic (he has ADHD, but I'm trying to leave those elements out). OTOH, he is really committed to LG ideals. He is trustworthy, honorable, and has an incongruent nurture-based commitment to assuming tradition is right. And he wants to consider himself LG. I agree that he is G, but in my own mind I look at all those elements and say to myself he is NG. If he lacked the desire and commitment towards those L things, we which aren't noticeable at first glance, I'd think of him as CG, and indeed did for years of our friendship before we had a discussion about it and I started thinking of how he likes to align himself with L.For me, I have some strong natural lawful-like personality inclinations, as well as some strong natural personality inclinations, but I believe both need to be balanced, and so I'd firmly put my L/C axis on N, both by choice of alignment and personality inclination.(Now on the G/E axis, I separate it almost entirely from personality, and consider it based on chosen actions and their motivations.)I'd be interested in hearing your take on how to totally separate personality from alignment on the L/C axis.</blockquote>

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