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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9750802" data-attributes="member: 4937">There is several ways you could go.  Hawk/Dove is an example.  Do you think that violence is a preferred approach to getting what you want, or do you think there are stronger and more preferred approaches to violence.  That's kind of obvious at the level of say Neutral Good, where 'Dove' might equate to pacifism and 'Hawk' to evil must be resisted and the innocent protected by any means.  But it exists even in alignments like Chaotic Evil as a distinction between say a mugger and a con artist, or in Lawful Evil as the distinction between a mastermind and a valiant but ruthless and merciless knight.   Does the LE ruler see the highest order of the state as being at peace (however ruthlessly trespasses against order are punished) or at perpetual war?  That is, does LE necessarily believe it must have an enemy?  Could you trust a LE nation state next to you to be a good neighbor or would they always been looking for an excuse to invade and conquer through violence (as opposed to more 'missionary' efforts or colonization or cultural hegemony).But I'm pretty sure there are diminishing returns to how many axis you add, and there will be I think a gradually drift once you get away from big archetypal themes toward things that are more like personality traits than core values.  There is also going to be a problem when you deal with whether or not an axis is fully independent of the other one.  Neutral Evil I've ignored for a reason, because it's very hard to see how different NE characters distinguish themselves on any other axis.  Once you have total destruction and nihilism and wanting to watch all things burn as a core value, it's hard to have a lot of meaningful distinction.  I suppose you could have a Nature Neutral Evil that only wanted to destroy Civilization and a Civilization Neutral Evil that only wanted to do destroy Nature and where Neutral Neutral Evil meant it all had to go?  But then my Hawk/Dove presents a problem, because how do you talk Nature to death?</blockquote>

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