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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 7573854" data-attributes="member: 14159">I keep hearing that, but you know what. . .I never ran across such casual use of CLW wands in the 3e games I played in.&nbsp; It was always something people would bring up online (mostly here), but I didn't see it at the table in actual everyday gameplay.I always hear that as a complaint about 3e. . .but like many other &quot;complaints&quot; (elaborate powergaming &quot;builds&quot; ect.) about 3e, I never saw it in actual gameplay with actual players in a regular game.Maybe the groups I played with had a different mentality, but people weren't buying bulk CLW wands and insta-healing after every encounter.&nbsp; When they bought magic items from NPC's, they were buying new weapons and armor, and consumable items were usually healing potions and maybe some scrolls of utility spells that would be nice to have on hand but often weren't worth keeping a spell slot devoted to them constantly.I knew one guy, ONE, who even tried any of that powergaming stuff. . .and most of his little &quot;tricks&quot; were things that were patched going from 3.0e to 3.5e (I never played with him after 3.5e came out, so I don't know what he did then).&nbsp; I saw a lot of the changes going to 3.5e as being superfluous, but gaming with that one guy showed me that they were done to put a stop on some very specific rules exploits being used by some players apparently.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 7573854, member: 14159"] I keep hearing that, but you know what. . .I never ran across such casual use of CLW wands in the 3e games I played in. It was always something people would bring up online (mostly here), but I didn't see it at the table in actual everyday gameplay. I always hear that as a complaint about 3e. . .but like many other "complaints" (elaborate powergaming "builds" ect.) about 3e, I never saw it in actual gameplay with actual players in a regular game. Maybe the groups I played with had a different mentality, but people weren't buying bulk CLW wands and insta-healing after every encounter. When they bought magic items from NPC's, they were buying new weapons and armor, and consumable items were usually healing potions and maybe some scrolls of utility spells that would be nice to have on hand but often weren't worth keeping a spell slot devoted to them constantly. I knew one guy, ONE, who even tried any of that powergaming stuff. . .and most of his little "tricks" were things that were patched going from 3.0e to 3.5e (I never played with him after 3.5e came out, so I don't know what he did then). I saw a lot of the changes going to 3.5e as being superfluous, but gaming with that one guy showed me that they were done to put a stop on some very specific rules exploits being used by some players apparently. [/QUOTE]

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