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Why do people think elven accuracy is so great?
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<blockquote data-quote="Bill Zebub" data-source="post: 8382327" data-attributes="member: 7031982"><p>Without necessarily trying to argue that Lucky is better, I do think your analysis misses a couple of things:</p><p></p><p>1. Lucky gets used <em>after</em> the roll, which means it doesn't get wasted on rolls that would otherwise succeed. And although Elven Accuracy applies to all rolls with Advantage, a lot of them will have succeeded anyway. So the question is really how many attack rolls with advantage do you make that miss, per long rest? I would guess for some characters on some days the answer is "more than 3", but it's more complicated than just "Elven Accuracy works on all rolls; Lucky only on 3".</p><p></p><p>2. You mentioned in passing that Lucky can be used defensively, but I think this is pretty significant since that can include saving throws. I would argue that, on average, succeeding at saving throws is more important than landing weapon attacks.</p><p></p><p>And combining those two things, the question is: do you miss on attack rolls with advantage more than 3 times a day, and is getting a chance to re-roll those additional misses worth not being able to re-roll saving throws or attacks that hit you?</p><p></p><p>(Ok, the +1 Dex makes Elven Accuracy win, though.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bill Zebub, post: 8382327, member: 7031982"] Without necessarily trying to argue that Lucky is better, I do think your analysis misses a couple of things: 1. Lucky gets used [I]after[/I] the roll, which means it doesn't get wasted on rolls that would otherwise succeed. And although Elven Accuracy applies to all rolls with Advantage, a lot of them will have succeeded anyway. So the question is really how many attack rolls with advantage do you make that miss, per long rest? I would guess for some characters on some days the answer is "more than 3", but it's more complicated than just "Elven Accuracy works on all rolls; Lucky only on 3". 2. You mentioned in passing that Lucky can be used defensively, but I think this is pretty significant since that can include saving throws. I would argue that, on average, succeeding at saving throws is more important than landing weapon attacks. And combining those two things, the question is: do you miss on attack rolls with advantage more than 3 times a day, and is getting a chance to re-roll those additional misses worth not being able to re-roll saving throws or attacks that hit you? (Ok, the +1 Dex makes Elven Accuracy win, though.) [/QUOTE]
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