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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 9010986" data-attributes="member: 71699">So to explain my thought a bit further, in 1978 a philosopher name Bernard Suits introduced the concept of the &quot;lusory attitude&quot; to game studies. As he put it -There are virtues and flaws with that view (the latter hopefully won't matter here). Anyway, one thing one might say about players as players is that it suits them to adopt a lusory attitude (heh) and if they could change the rules on the fly that might put them in breach of Suits' observation. Traditionally, GM has been appointed to change rules, presumably not putting them in breach as they're not a player.Some ideas about rules, in particular how and by whom they might be changed during play, seem to skirt either making GM a player, or voiding the lusory attitude. At the very least, some sort of balancing acts or constraints probably need to exist. So let's suppose that GM becomes a player and thus loses their making-rulings power... what then?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 9010986, member: 71699"] So to explain my thought a bit further, in 1978 a philosopher name Bernard Suits introduced the concept of the "lusory attitude" to game studies. As he put it - There are virtues and flaws with that view (the latter hopefully won't matter here). Anyway, one thing one might say about players [I]as players[/I] is that it suits them to adopt a lusory attitude (heh) and if they could change the rules on the fly that might put them in breach of Suits' observation. Traditionally, GM has been appointed to change rules, presumably not putting them in breach as they're not a [I]player[/I]. Some ideas about rules, in particular how and by whom they might be changed during play, seem to skirt either making GM a player, or voiding the lusory attitude. At the very least, some sort of balancing acts or constraints probably need to exist. So let's suppose that GM becomes a player and thus loses their making-rulings power... what then? [/QUOTE]

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