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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9014897" data-attributes="member: 6785785">No, that’s not what’s happening. We don’t interpret the rules that way, so there’s no agreement, implied or otherwise, to use rule zero or not. No it’s not. Chocolate is a thing that is clearly defined. There are subsets of chocolate… dark, milk, and so on, as you’ve pointed out. If a recipe calls for milk chocolate, it means a specific thing. Rule zero is not a specific thing. To run with the chocolate analogy, rule zero is dark chocolate and GM authority is chocolate. It is, perhaps, a type of GM authority, or at least a phrase to refer to it. However, given that others clearly have different ideas of what it means, it’s hard to say for certain. I interpret those passages very differently than you do. This is likely a case of my preference and mindset influencing my interpretation, I know, but such is the problem with the natural language approach of the 5e books. As the countless threads have shown us, people can interpret things radically different from one another, even when language is more precise. When it’s not, all bets are off… and that’s the case with 5e. This is all before we try to apply the idea of rule zero to other games, many of which it does not suit at all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 9014897, member: 6785785"] No, that’s not what’s happening. We don’t interpret the rules that way, so there’s no agreement, implied or otherwise, to use rule zero or not. No it’s not. Chocolate is a thing that is clearly defined. There are subsets of chocolate… dark, milk, and so on, as you’ve pointed out. If a recipe calls for milk chocolate, it means a specific thing. Rule zero is not a specific thing. To run with the chocolate analogy, rule zero is dark chocolate and GM authority is chocolate. It is, perhaps, a type of GM authority, or at least a phrase to refer to it. However, given that others clearly have different ideas of what it means, it’s hard to say for certain. I interpret those passages very differently than you do. This is likely a case of my preference and mindset influencing my interpretation, I know, but such is the problem with the natural language approach of the 5e books. As the countless threads have shown us, people can interpret things radically different from one another, even when language is more precise. When it’s not, all bets are off… and that’s the case with 5e. This is all before we try to apply the idea of rule zero to other games, many of which it does not suit at all. [/QUOTE]

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