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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 9015849" data-attributes="member: 82106">As I said, I just read the article, it claims to be discussing the topic WRT games mainly from what I could see. There was a bunch of stuff discussing the 'permeability' of the magic circle, as in how structures and considerations from outside tend to 'flow in' (but it can go both ways) I think the canonical examples are things like Linden's 2nd Life money, which took on a real world value. But yes, I think the idea of 'the rules of the virtual world' is cogent. However you have to take on more than that to enter the circle, as I would see it. You also have to actually have access to the shared imagined space, that is participate with the other people who are also there. Right?I think there are potentially several useful ways to measure things. As I stated in another post, I think the USEFUL states in Chess, or Go for that matter, are VASTLY less than the total. Otherwise how could a chess strategy book teach chess in, say, 100 games? It thus MUST be that there are generalizations across these large spaces which effectively reduce them to much smaller spaces, and those much smaller spaces (and here maybe your idea of smaller differences is effective) are more similar too. So RPGs turn out to actually be much more EFFECTIVELY extensive than ANY board game.Yeah, I assume that what you are looking for then is something closer to true classic RPG play. I mean, WELL EXECUTED of course. But I don't know for sure...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 9015849, member: 82106"] As I said, I just read the article, it claims to be discussing the topic WRT games mainly from what I could see. There was a bunch of stuff discussing the 'permeability' of the magic circle, as in how structures and considerations from outside tend to 'flow in' (but it can go both ways) I think the canonical examples are things like Linden's 2nd Life money, which took on a real world value. But yes, I think the idea of 'the rules of the virtual world' is cogent. However you have to take on more than that to enter the circle, as I would see it. You also have to actually have access to the shared imagined space, that is participate with the other people who are also there. Right? I think there are potentially several useful ways to measure things. As I stated in another post, I think the USEFUL states in Chess, or Go for that matter, are VASTLY less than the total. Otherwise how could a chess strategy book teach chess in, say, 100 games? It thus MUST be that there are generalizations across these large spaces which effectively reduce them to much smaller spaces, and those much smaller spaces (and here maybe your idea of smaller differences is effective) are more similar too. So RPGs turn out to actually be much more EFFECTIVELY extensive than ANY board game. Yeah, I assume that what you are looking for then is something closer to true classic RPG play. I mean, WELL EXECUTED of course. But I don't know for sure... [/QUOTE]

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