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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 9021542" data-attributes="member: 71699">I have something like this in mind, too. Further above I laid out several contentions, and I did not see them as being necessarily at odds. &quot;GM&quot; is yet another vague label with ambiguous contents. I accept a possibility that the label &quot;GM&quot; sometimes refers to GM-as-referee and sometimes to GM-as-player.It might be that a tautology applies. GM can only become a player by virtue of accepting lusory-means i.e. adopting a lusory-attitude. If so, then that means accepting limits on R*. Seeing as I observe limits to be in place anyway, I find it plausible that &quot;GM&quot; can accept sufficient limits to wield powers derived from R inefficiently. One adjustment to R in such cases can be to exercise different levels of reluctance or be obliged to take various factors into account in its wielding across explicitly or tacitly arranged categories.*I'll use my R here as I find it a lot clearer than the vague label &quot;rule zero&quot;. R is an exemption from my F, which is the agreement to suspend use of the preexisting capacitiy of homo ludens to form and modify rules. &quot;Rule zero&quot; in the domain is a complex or compound rule that incorporates R, but is defined differently by different users.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 9021542, member: 71699"] I have something like this in mind, too. Further above I laid out several contentions, and I did not see them as being necessarily at odds. "GM" is yet another vague label with ambiguous contents. I accept a possibility that the label "GM" sometimes refers to GM-as-referee and sometimes to GM-as-player. It might be that a tautology applies. GM can only become a player by virtue of accepting lusory-means i.e. adopting a lusory-attitude. If so, then that means accepting limits on R*. Seeing as I observe limits to be in place anyway, I find it plausible that "GM" can accept sufficient limits to wield powers derived from R inefficiently. One adjustment to R in such cases can be to exercise different levels of reluctance or be obliged to take various factors into account in its wielding across explicitly or tacitly arranged categories. *I'll use my R here as I find it a lot clearer than the vague label "rule zero". R is an exemption from my F, which is the agreement to suspend use of the preexisting capacitiy of homo ludens to form and modify rules. "Rule zero" in the domain is a complex or compound rule that incorporates R, but is defined differently by different users. [/QUOTE]

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