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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 9023938" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Still waiting for your answer on why you think Army wargames are free Kriegsspiel despite having very little referee discretion. (0.001% according to you.)Pemerton asserted that refereeing a scenario in a fictional world in FK and refereeing an agendaless dungeon crawl in a fantasy world in an RPG are qualitatively different activities. I have argued that they are not because the agenda in both cases is faithful extrapolation, and both require subjective judgment calls which cannot be disputed by the participants. You tried to argue that FK is almost entirely rules-driven with little referee discretion, based on your experience with US Army Wargaming, and now seem to have switched to arguing that since fantasy worlds are fictional, all human beings are equally good at extrapolating answers to questions about them and therefore they are qualitatively different from FKs after all. Am I understanding you correctly?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 9023938, member: 6787650"] Still waiting for your answer on why you think Army wargames are free Kriegsspiel despite having very little referee discretion. (0.001% according to you.) Pemerton asserted that refereeing a scenario in a fictional world in FK and refereeing an agendaless dungeon crawl in a fantasy world in an RPG are qualitatively different activities. I have argued that they are not because the agenda in both cases is faithful extrapolation, and both require subjective judgment calls which cannot be disputed by the participants. You tried to argue that FK is almost entirely rules-driven with little referee discretion, based on your experience with US Army Wargaming, and now seem to have switched to arguing that since fantasy worlds are fictional, all human beings are equally good at extrapolating answers to questions about them and therefore they are qualitatively different from FKs after all. Am I understanding you correctly? [/QUOTE]

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