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<blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 9026730" data-attributes="member: 71699">As I commented above, Salen and Zimmerman (Rules of Play has two authors, Katie and Eric) are not at odds with Wittgenstein. In the relevant section they canvass eight definitions of games and offer one of their own. They then - using RPG and Sim City - challenge their own definition. They conclude that &quot;Games are a complex phenomena and there are many ways to frame them and understand them.&quot;They offer their definition as a useful lense through which they will scrutinise games in the rest of their book. It identifies significant features that they will have in mind when they say &quot;game&quot;. Their view is in the end more similar to Wittgensteins, in that they both notice features that are common in games... while pointing out that no feature seems common to all games. (It's also worth noting that Wittgenstein's interests lay elsewhere: he wasn't focused in those sections of the PI on defining games, but investigating meaning.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="clearstream, post: 9026730, member: 71699"] As I commented above, Salen and Zimmerman (Rules of Play has [I]two[/I] authors, Katie and Eric) are not at odds with Wittgenstein. In the relevant section they canvass eight definitions of games and offer one of their own. They then - using RPG and Sim City - challenge their own definition. They conclude that "Games are a complex phenomena and there are many ways to frame them and understand them." They offer their definition as a useful lense through which they will scrutinise games in the rest of their book. It identifies significant features that they will have in mind when they say "game". Their view is in the end more similar to Wittgensteins, in that they both notice features that are common in games... while pointing out that no feature seems common to all games. (It's also worth noting that Wittgenstein's interests lay elsewhere: he wasn't focused in those sections of the PI on defining games, but investigating meaning.) [/QUOTE]

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