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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 9027633" data-attributes="member: 5142">Yeah, there are many games out there with great design that aren't for me (for a myriad of reasons). I will still recommend them if I think that others would like them. IMHO, good game design should be lauded - especially by independent designers - regardless of my preferences. I was dragged into the conversation by someone who mentioned me in a post where they clearly misunderstood and misrepresented Dungeon World. I had to backtrack to see what the conversation was even about, which included seeing how DW got mentioned in the first place. Mention of story games and any advice thereof were actually mostly absent from the initial wave of discussion. Dungeon World and story games doesn't come up until <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/fighting-law-and-order.697520/page-6#post-9013369" target="_blank">Post #107</a> by EzekielRaiden in a single offhand comment buried in his post, i.e., being a fan of the characters. No one cared. No one pushed back. No one mentioned it all. But before that? <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/fighting-law-and-order.697520/page-2#post-9011798" target="_blank">Hawkeyefan</a> didn't intially mention story games with their advice. <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/fighting-law-and-order.697520/page-2#post-9011773" target="_blank">Mort</a> didn't initially mention story games with their advice. <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/fighting-law-and-order.697520/page-2#post-9011953" target="_blank">EzekielRaiden</a> didn't initially mention story games with their advice. <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/fighting-law-and-order.697520/page-3#post-9012202" target="_blank">AbdulAlhazred</a> didn't initially mention any story games with their advice. <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/fighting-law-and-order.697520/page-5#post-9013029" target="_blank">FrozenNorth</a> didn't initially mention any story games with their advice. It's really only at <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/fighting-law-and-order.697520/page-9#post-9013616" target="_blank">this point</a> with AbdulAlhazred's post that the conversation starts to pivot as he starts (somewhat abrasively) explaining the what he perceives as the difference between his and your preferred play styles, game preferences, and perspectives. But by this point, basically everyone in the thread had written off the OP. But no one was initially peddling story game advice to the OP. I think that your narrative that you are trying to construct about people just wanting to push story games is pretty bogus. Debate and disagreement was happening prior. It turns out that people can disagree on a topic without pushing their preferred games. If you don't care about advice from story games, the simple solution is not to engage it and let it die of natural causes. Putting the more egregious offenders for your complaints on ignore is also an option. It's that easy. I suspect that your bias may be clouding your judgment given that a fair number of people are also running 5e D&D or other traditional games and not just story ones, and I would also say that you are painting others with too broad of a brush.</blockquote>

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