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<blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 9043624" data-attributes="member: 6785785">There is no such example. I didn't say there was. I said that the formation of mountains is a geological process. What model is being simulated? There needs to be a model of some sort. We only have the real world to use as an actual model for how mountains form. Otherwise, it's just imagination. Which is fine... but then it loses the lofty claim of being &quot;more realistic&quot; than other methods. Which is, I expect, the actual issue that most folks have. Your take on simulation leaves no difference between actual simulation and simple imagination. Setting aside that I thought the lightning bolt example that [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] shared involved magic... we're not just back to the idea that everything must be known prior to being introduced in play. How can we possibly address all such instances ahead of time? It's a strange requirement that I expect most people don't even attempt to adhere to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hawkeyefan, post: 9043624, member: 6785785"] There is no such example. I didn't say there was. I said that the formation of mountains is a geological process. What model is being simulated? There needs to be a model of some sort. We only have the real world to use as an actual model for how mountains form. Otherwise, it's just imagination. Which is fine... but then it loses the lofty claim of being "more realistic" than other methods. Which is, I expect, the actual issue that most folks have. Your take on simulation leaves no difference between actual simulation and simple imagination. Setting aside that I thought the lightning bolt example that [USER=42582]@pemerton[/USER] shared involved magic... we're not just back to the idea that everything must be known prior to being introduced in play. How can we possibly address all such instances ahead of time? It's a strange requirement that I expect most people don't even attempt to adhere to. [/QUOTE]

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