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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 9046165" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Mmmm. I can see how this would be the practical effect among toxic people, but it's not the practical effect among the sorts of open-minded, intellectually humble people I enjoy talking to.Among such people, the practical effect of asking where Morrolan e'Drien and Aliera e'Kieron sit on the alignment spectrum is merely an interesting discussion of their observed behaviors and traits, undoubtedly with an acknowledgement that alignment is ambiguous when applied to realistic characters, and probably some sort of list of evidence in all directions (evil-ish: Morrolan took great joy in painfully dismembering his opponent in a duel; good-ish: Morrolan is always happy to help a friend, even if there's nothing in it for him or if it might cost him his life; good-ish: in Tsalmoth, Morrolan tries to dissuade Vlad from pointlessly killing someone who accidentally hurt him badly while pursuing a different goal). There probably won't be a consensus on an ultimate decision but that's okay.The practical effect of taxonomies is to catalyze interesting thinking and discussion.P.S. Also the practical effect of reading Blacow's taxonomy (<a href="https://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/theory/models/blacow.html" target="_blank">Glenn Blacow's &quot;Aspects of Adventure Gaming&quot;</a>) was, for me, enlightenment about the need to communicate my GMing style and priorities clearly to prospective players, so they can decide whether or not they're interested in the game I am interested in running. I don't necessarily need to make them read the article but I should find a way to make my style very clear very quickly.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 9046165, member: 6787650"] Mmmm. I can see how this would be the practical effect among toxic people, but it's not the practical effect among the sorts of open-minded, intellectually humble people I enjoy talking to. Among such people, the practical effect of asking where Morrolan e'Drien and Aliera e'Kieron sit on the alignment spectrum is merely an interesting discussion of their observed behaviors and traits, undoubtedly with an acknowledgement that alignment is ambiguous when applied to realistic characters, and probably some sort of list of evidence in all directions (evil-ish: Morrolan took great joy in painfully dismembering his opponent in a duel; good-ish: Morrolan is always happy to help a friend, even if there's nothing in it for him or if it might cost him his life; good-ish: in Tsalmoth, Morrolan tries to dissuade Vlad from pointlessly killing someone who accidentally hurt him badly while pursuing a different goal). There probably won't be a consensus on an ultimate decision but that's okay. The practical effect of taxonomies is to catalyze interesting thinking and discussion. P.S. Also the practical effect of reading Blacow's taxonomy ([URL='https://www.darkshire.net/jhkim/rpg/theory/models/blacow.html']Glenn Blacow's "Aspects of Adventure Gaming"[/URL]) was, for me, enlightenment about the need to communicate my GMing style and priorities clearly to prospective players, so they can decide whether or not they're interested in the game I am interested in running. I don't necessarily need to make them read the article but I should find a way to make my style very clear very quickly. [/QUOTE]

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