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Why do so many DMs use the wrong rules for invisibility?
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<blockquote data-quote="cooperjer" data-source="post: 7019090" data-attributes="member: 6862150"><p>In one encounter I ran the warlock cast Darkness in an area and the cleric cast Silence in the same area. I assumed the NPCs were disoriented and not sure what to do next other than get out of the area and find an area where they can hear and see. Prior to them getting a turn to move, because they were surprised, the PCs moved to a spot next to the NPCs and attacked them. Would you say the PCs are attacking hidden creatures? The NPCs could not see or hear the PCs so they could not hear the attack or coordinate a response. However; once they NPCs moved on their turn, were they now hidden, assuming the Darkness and Silence spells were active?</p><p></p><p>I would also like to toss the spell Pass Without Trace out as additional evidence of what can affect if a creature is hidden or not hidden. Pass Without Trace indicates no tracks or other traces of passage occur from the creatures near the ranger. This suggest than an invisible creature would leave evidence of passage even if it were in an area affected by the Silence spell. This may allow an adventurer to find the invisible and silent creature if it didn't take the hide action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cooperjer, post: 7019090, member: 6862150"] In one encounter I ran the warlock cast Darkness in an area and the cleric cast Silence in the same area. I assumed the NPCs were disoriented and not sure what to do next other than get out of the area and find an area where they can hear and see. Prior to them getting a turn to move, because they were surprised, the PCs moved to a spot next to the NPCs and attacked them. Would you say the PCs are attacking hidden creatures? The NPCs could not see or hear the PCs so they could not hear the attack or coordinate a response. However; once they NPCs moved on their turn, were they now hidden, assuming the Darkness and Silence spells were active? I would also like to toss the spell Pass Without Trace out as additional evidence of what can affect if a creature is hidden or not hidden. Pass Without Trace indicates no tracks or other traces of passage occur from the creatures near the ranger. This suggest than an invisible creature would leave evidence of passage even if it were in an area affected by the Silence spell. This may allow an adventurer to find the invisible and silent creature if it didn't take the hide action. [/QUOTE]
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