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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7020917" data-attributes="member: 6801845">It's been too long since I played 3.5 to remember all the rules.&nbsp; I do specifically recall that invisible opponents were a pain in the arse.&nbsp; Oddly enough, that was part of the fun - how do you fight someone you can't see?&nbsp; Glitterdust was our savior more than once but we also had people get creative and do things like cast create water so we would see outline of the person as the water splashed down and then see prints in the newly formed pools.&nbsp; One of my old characters always carried around a small bag of flour to throw in the hopes of temporarily outlining the creature.Some people may find that style of play annoying, but I enjoyed it and continue to use similar in my 5E games.&nbsp; Knowing that someone is &quot;over there somewhere&quot; without being able to pinpoint them exactly is rare, but it does happen.&nbsp; And as always, IMHO the phrase &quot;an invisible person can be detected&quot; does not mean &quot;an invisible person is always detected&quot; any more than &quot;a rectangle can be a square&quot; means that &quot;a rectangle is always a square&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7020917, member: 6801845"] It's been too long since I played 3.5 to remember all the rules. I [I]do [/I] specifically recall that invisible opponents were a pain in the arse. Oddly enough, that was part of the fun - how do you fight someone you can't see? Glitterdust was our savior more than once but we also had people get creative and do things like cast [I]create water[/I] so we would see outline of the person as the water splashed down and then see prints in the newly formed pools. One of my old characters always carried around a small bag of flour to throw in the hopes of temporarily outlining the creature. Some people may find that style of play annoying, but I enjoyed it and continue to use similar in my 5E games. Knowing that someone is "over there somewhere" without being able to pinpoint them exactly is rare, but it does happen. And as always, IMHO the phrase "an invisible person [I]can be[/I] detected" does not mean "an invisible person [I]is always[/I] detected" any more than "a rectangle [I]can be[/I] a square" means that "a rectangle [I]is always[/I] a square". [/QUOTE]

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