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<blockquote data-quote="dco" data-source="post: 7021048">Why should a DM tell what the characters can detect? That makes no sense, he should tell them what they perceive.So hidden is different than invisibility:- Hidden --&gt; unseen and unheard- Invisible --&gt; unseen and the unheard part depends on different factors.Good, an advancement, now... from what page does this thing about auto-detection come? Does it also say the range? Your characters know where are all the beings and things at every moment in the different planes if they are not hidden?Let me guess, all beings need to perceive or use magic, the DM describes what they see, what they hear, what they smell, what they sense through magic, etc, they don't have auto-detect everything always on like some omnipotent gods. I would say that is common sense for any RPG, now back to invisibility, if someone or something is invisible it can not be seen without the aid of magic or a special sense, that is stated in page 291, it is RAW. I don't know you but I could see easily 5 cockroaches in a table, with my eyes closed I would have a hard time knowing how many and where they are, being blind has implications in the world.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dco, post: 7021048"] Why should a DM tell what the characters can detect? That makes no sense, he should tell them what they perceive. So hidden is different than invisibility: - Hidden --> unseen and unheard - Invisible --> unseen and the unheard part depends on different factors. Good, an advancement, now... from what page does this thing about auto-detection come? Does it also say the range? Your characters know where are all the beings and things at every moment in the different planes if they are not hidden? Let me guess, all beings need to perceive or use magic, the DM describes what they see, what they hear, what they smell, what they sense through magic, etc, they don't have auto-detect everything always on like some omnipotent gods. I would say that is common sense for any RPG, now back to invisibility, if someone or something is invisible it can not be seen without the aid of magic or a special sense, that is stated in page 291, it is RAW. I don't know you but I could see easily 5 cockroaches in a table, with my eyes closed I would have a hard time knowing how many and where they are, being blind has implications in the world. [/QUOTE]

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