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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7021228" data-attributes="member: 6801845">Except &quot;can&quot; does not imply certainty.&nbsp; There isn't much of the horse left to beat, but saying that a rectangle can be a square does not imply that all rectangles are squares.IMHO, if you have this much of an issue with parsing the word &quot;can&quot; you are over-thinking it.&nbsp; The text in the PHB is not meant to be read like a legal document.From a logic perspective (ignoring the rules for a moment) I agree that if someone makes enough sound and they are close enough you may know their position.But I don't care if you're blowing a bugle, if you are 100 yards away if I can't see you I won't know your exact position.&nbsp; I may know your approximate location, and in most circumstances I will know your direction.Imagine another scenario.&nbsp; You're alone and blindfolded in a gymnasium.&nbsp; Someone enters the gymnasium.&nbsp;&nbsp; You may have a decent idea of where they are by hearing a door open and hearing footsteps.&nbsp; But now assume there's a basketball game.&nbsp; Odds of hearing someone over the noise unless they're really close is minimal.&nbsp; Add a cheering crowd, or make it an open basketball court in the middle of a noisy city?&nbsp; Not gonna happen.As far as the rules, I don't see an explicit rule that states that the game would not work the same as the real world.&nbsp; Rectangles aren't always squares simply because rectangles can be squares and you don't always detect someone's location simply because they can be detected based on noise they make.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7021228, member: 6801845"] Except "can" does not imply certainty. There isn't much of the horse left to beat, but saying that a rectangle can be a square does not imply that all rectangles are squares. IMHO, if you have this much of an issue with parsing the word "can" you are over-thinking it. The text in the PHB is not meant to be read like a legal document. From a logic perspective (ignoring the rules for a moment) I agree that if someone makes enough sound and they are close enough you may know their position. But I don't care if you're blowing a bugle, if you are 100 yards away if I can't see you I won't know your exact position. I may know your approximate location, and in most circumstances I will know your direction. Imagine another scenario. You're alone and blindfolded in a gymnasium. Someone enters the gymnasium. You may have a decent idea of where they are by hearing a door open and hearing footsteps. But now assume there's a basketball game. Odds of hearing someone over the noise unless they're really close is minimal. Add a cheering crowd, or make it an open basketball court in the middle of a noisy city? Not gonna happen. As far as the rules, I don't see an explicit rule that states that the game would not work the same as the real world. Rectangles aren't always squares simply because rectangles [I]can be[/I] squares and you don't always detect someone's location simply because they [I]can be[/I] detected based on noise they make. [/QUOTE]

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