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<blockquote data-quote="Tsyr" data-source="post: 303840" data-attributes="member: 354"><p>What don't I like about Voyager?</p><p></p><p>Hoooboy. I'll keep it short to focus on some of my "core" problems.</p><p></p><p>1) Janeway. Why has the crew not launched her out of a photon torpedo tube by now? How many chances to get home has she blown because of her "We represent the federation wherever we go." speach? Yet, whenever a way to get home is NOT at steak, damn the prime directive, meddle all you like! How many times did she recklessly and needlessly endanger the entire ship? How many times did she do something so un-captainish that she would have picard turning in his grave (if he was dead)? </p><p></p><p>2) Seven of Nine. Someone else had it right... the show turned into the Seven of Nine show... at least in the first couple seasons of TNG, Wesley didn't save the ship EVERY episode, just every 2-3... And how the heck many times did she violate the captains direct orders and never get more than a stern talking to?</p><p></p><p>3) Neelix. Ok, so they tried to replace Guinan (SP?) from TNG. Sure, I'm cool with that. But Neelix was just irritating. </p><p></p><p>4) Lack of Continuity. Another one many have mentioned. An as-yet un-mentioned example: The crew is on replicator rations, right? Things are tight and all? So why in the heck does the holodeck seem to get 24/7 use? For gods sake, for a while they had a program running 24/7 for a really long time... ONE PROGRAM!</p><p></p><p>5) The Doctor. I'm sorry, he's no Data. Not by a long shot. Data had character. The doc is a character. If you follow. Data was... believeable, for what he was. The doc is just... flat. </p><p></p><p>5b) Another point about this. What was the inital estimate for getting home? 60 or 70 years? And what is the estimate when you figure they spend better than 50% of their time orbiting some planet or studying some stellar phenomenon? </p><p></p><p>6) We are shown the "might" of the borg empire. *shudder* Yet one lone, under-crewed ship lightyears from re-enforcements continues to be a thorn in their side. </p><p></p><p>6b) For that matter, we see that between the borg and earth there are hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of civilzations... the borg just seem holed up in one nebula. I always envisioned (based on guinans descriptions, and the few sensor readings data took when they were in borg space in TNG) that the entire quadrant the borg where in was just wasteland. Why are they even BOTHERING with earth yet?</p><p></p><p>Don't even get me started with First Contact or Enterprise...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tsyr, post: 303840, member: 354"] What don't I like about Voyager? Hoooboy. I'll keep it short to focus on some of my "core" problems. 1) Janeway. Why has the crew not launched her out of a photon torpedo tube by now? How many chances to get home has she blown because of her "We represent the federation wherever we go." speach? Yet, whenever a way to get home is NOT at steak, damn the prime directive, meddle all you like! How many times did she recklessly and needlessly endanger the entire ship? How many times did she do something so un-captainish that she would have picard turning in his grave (if he was dead)? 2) Seven of Nine. Someone else had it right... the show turned into the Seven of Nine show... at least in the first couple seasons of TNG, Wesley didn't save the ship EVERY episode, just every 2-3... And how the heck many times did she violate the captains direct orders and never get more than a stern talking to? 3) Neelix. Ok, so they tried to replace Guinan (SP?) from TNG. Sure, I'm cool with that. But Neelix was just irritating. 4) Lack of Continuity. Another one many have mentioned. An as-yet un-mentioned example: The crew is on replicator rations, right? Things are tight and all? So why in the heck does the holodeck seem to get 24/7 use? For gods sake, for a while they had a program running 24/7 for a really long time... ONE PROGRAM! 5) The Doctor. I'm sorry, he's no Data. Not by a long shot. Data had character. The doc is a character. If you follow. Data was... believeable, for what he was. The doc is just... flat. 5b) Another point about this. What was the inital estimate for getting home? 60 or 70 years? And what is the estimate when you figure they spend better than 50% of their time orbiting some planet or studying some stellar phenomenon? 6) We are shown the "might" of the borg empire. *shudder* Yet one lone, under-crewed ship lightyears from re-enforcements continues to be a thorn in their side. 6b) For that matter, we see that between the borg and earth there are hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of civilzations... the borg just seem holed up in one nebula. I always envisioned (based on guinans descriptions, and the few sensor readings data took when they were in borg space in TNG) that the entire quadrant the borg where in was just wasteland. Why are they even BOTHERING with earth yet? Don't even get me started with First Contact or Enterprise... [/QUOTE]
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