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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storm Raven" data-source="post: 304810" data-attributes="member: 307">Kirk only defeated the doomsday weapon because another ship captain sacrificed his life in an assist. The Squire of Gothos was overcome by other powerful alien beings. The Olympian gods were overcome by discovering their secret, and matching their power.They encountered the borg five times in TNG (if you count the movie). I'd hardly call their encounters a ringing success.1. When Q tossed them out in space to the original borg cube, the borg pretty much cleaned the Enterprise's clock, and it was only the subsequent intervention of Q that saved them.2. When the borg cube showed up to attack earth, it was only the fortuituous circumstance that Picard gave away a borg weakeness that allowed humanity to escape. The Federation fleet was annhilated in the process.3. A lone borg was captured by the Enterprise, and although they caused him to develop individuality, they were still so convinced of the danger of the borg that they made sure to return him to the borg.4. Lor led the disaffected borg against the Enterprise, and despite the fact that they were dealing with a disorganized rabble of a borg group, the heroes were only able to survive by the timely intervention of Hue.5. A tiny force of borg went backwards in time and despite the fact that the borg ship was destroyed, they killed or assimilated so many crewmembers that they took over the ship. Only the treachery of Data allowed the borg to be defeated, and only after the crew paid a hefty price.I stopped watching the mind numbing boredom that was Deep Space Nine long before these events took place, so I have no comment on them.No, the small human crew is able to get support from one of the military superpowers in the universe (the Minbari), and virtually every nonaligned world in the setting. They form the "largest fleet in history". I'd hardly call that beating their enemy from an inferior position.Earth is taken on with Minbari help, Psi Corps isn't an enemy of the Babylon 5 characters until Season 5, Bester was actually allied with them through Season 4, and by the time Season 5 rolls around, Sheridan is the ISA President, hardly dealing from a position of weakness.In many cases, there is plausible help for the outmatched, or the villans had agendas that precluded using their full force on the heroes (for example, Babaylon 5, where the Vorlons and Shadows wanted an ideological victory, not a physical one) which is what makes the stories work. There was very little justification in Voyager for that, which is what made the storylines implausible.</blockquote>

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