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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 3210343" data-attributes="member: 478">Sure. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Metamagic Effect is crazy powerful, and the advantage Wizards have here is huge, they can easily use it with higher spell levels and have a lot more uses per day thanks to their higher Int. It grants a lot of spontaneous use as well, it's just not great in combat, but there are many more situations where metamagic is useful (Cooperative Metamagic is very nice for empowering the Cleric's healing spells, BTW, or extending their buffs).Wizards give up nothing in practice (only in theory). Wizards do not have more than 6 wizard class levels typically, most often only 5.That's a difference these two classes already have, so it doesn't really come into play here. Wizards gain more with Instant Metamagic, because it allows them to use all their metamagic (including Quicken, which they can also use traditionally) spontaneously up to twice per day, instead a Sorcerer 'only' gains the ability to use Quicken (still costs the feat, which is otherwise useless, unless more feats or abilities are used in addition) twice per day or save on the extra casting time.Improved Metamagic is better for Sorcerers, obviously, since they use metamagic more often, but it's also very good for Wizards, since it makes it easier for them to prepare metamagicked spells, and it enhances the powerful Metamagic Effect ability. But Improved Metamagic is only gained at the 10th level, while Metamagic Effect is already usable a long time before.The additional prohibited school is much less of an issue for a Wizard, because you can learn all spells you need from that school before going into the PrC, and you keep them and the ability to use them. Wizards are MUCH better there than Sorcerers, who only have very few spells known at that point, and none of levels they cannot cast yet (Wizards can already learn those, they just cannot cast them).Again, that's the base classes not the PrC; these are advantages and disadvantages they already have and which they do gain or lose something else to compensate... like the number of spells known, which greatly increases the possible applications for metamagic in any number of potential situations.I never said, that it would make Wizards better at using metamagic than Sorcerers.I said, that the Incantatrix offers more to Wizards than it does to Sorcerers.ByeThanee</blockquote>

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