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Why do Sorcerers have to take a full round action to use a metamagic rod?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3210859" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>I think it makes perfect sense for a sorcerer applying a metamagic effect at casting time to a spell not prepared with that metamagic feat to suffer an increased casting time. Whether he's using a rod to do it or not.</p><p></p><p>If we allow a wizard to use a rod to apply a metamagic effect at casting time to a spell not prepared with that metamagic feat, however, he should suffer the same increased casting time.</p><p></p><p>"But because the sorcerer or bard has not prepared the spell in a metamagic form in advance, he must apply the metamagic feat on the spot. Therefore, such a character must also take more time to cast a metamagic spell (one enhanced by a metamagic feat) than he does to cast a regular spell."</p><p></p><p>If the sorcerer using the rod needs more time to apply the feat, we know that applying a metamagic feat on the spot using a rod requires as much time as applying a metamagic feat on the spot normally.</p><p></p><p>So if a wizard applies a metamagic feat on the spot using a rod, it makes no sense that he should not require more time.</p><p></p><p>Since the description implies that a wizard using the rod does not require more time, the only logical conclusion I can see is that the wizard using the rod does not apply the feat on the spot to a spell not prepared in a metamagic form in advance.</p><p></p><p>Thus, I reject the FAQ answer, and conclude that the wizard uses the rod when preparing spells, just as he would if he had the feat.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 3210859, member: 1656"] I think it makes perfect sense for a sorcerer applying a metamagic effect at casting time to a spell not prepared with that metamagic feat to suffer an increased casting time. Whether he's using a rod to do it or not. If we allow a wizard to use a rod to apply a metamagic effect at casting time to a spell not prepared with that metamagic feat, however, he should suffer the same increased casting time. "But because the sorcerer or bard has not prepared the spell in a metamagic form in advance, he must apply the metamagic feat on the spot. Therefore, such a character must also take more time to cast a metamagic spell (one enhanced by a metamagic feat) than he does to cast a regular spell." If the sorcerer using the rod needs more time to apply the feat, we know that applying a metamagic feat on the spot using a rod requires as much time as applying a metamagic feat on the spot normally. So if a wizard applies a metamagic feat on the spot using a rod, it makes no sense that he should not require more time. Since the description implies that a wizard using the rod does not require more time, the only logical conclusion I can see is that the wizard using the rod does not apply the feat on the spot to a spell not prepared in a metamagic form in advance. Thus, I reject the FAQ answer, and conclude that the wizard uses the rod when preparing spells, just as he would if he had the feat. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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