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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Zelda Themelin" data-source="post: 5884317" data-attributes="member: 167">Jon_Dahl do you play games or mostly just dm? Your confusion sound about your players "unfair" thing sound like that to me.Players don't like semi-useful-sometimes-maybe-easy-to-forget-book-keeping-thing-remain-dm-because-he-forgets-it-too things like SR. And very low SR at that. And they already had +1 shields. It would have been more "fair" trade if ability would have been something more practical, and more often relevant, and more trustworthy to work.I probably think there is somewhere better trade or if not, no-one at least doesn't cheat them.Also there is also power in numbers. You can arm 5 warriors with five swords, yeh. And then 5 people more can hit "can only be harmed by magic" things.If they were complaining something about unfair, are you sure you didn't say first "it's fair trade". Low spell resistance, low damage resistance, low (25%) crit immunity are more annoying qualities than they are useful. Low damage resistance is ok if it's 1-2/- type, but it's still extra thing to remember (oh, wait last round, I totally forget about that DR). Despite somewhat useful, those qualities are also bit uncool.Value is not just mathematical formula, it's also very much to do with "feeling". Why otherwise those over-priced apple products would be so popular?</blockquote>