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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8181567" data-attributes="member: 6801228">No way they can go inside huh... Well, let me think about this. First of all, walls don't have to go around cities. You can build a wall around the farmland. Then farm behind the wall. No DnD setting really does this, but it is an option. Also, um, dwarves. Dwarves live underground or in mountains almost exclusively. There isn't major tracts of farmland, and if there was, the dwarven homes are still inside the mountain. And they can all fit in there, since it is a hollowed out mountains. Elves could actually be a very interesting example. If they were capable of farming in the forested environment, which they might be able to do if they focused on certain types of food, then they could go traditional and live up in the trees. Many of the threats are ground based, and living in a suspended city with an early warning system could easily allow for them to protect the populace.And, I know you don't like this answer, but magic makes a massive difference. Via magic you can shrink a farmland needed to feed a population by half. Magic also allows for a far easier time in building tall structures. Most fantasy structures are much more vertical than medieval building. You could quite easily conceive of a city built up instead of out to give the needed space for the farmers. Or, you could go down. If the underdark is a thing in the setting, it is generally massive and covers most of the planet, since it is so dangerous it would need to be fortified, and that fortified underground area could be used for even more additional housing, allowing for even more people to fit inside the city walls. Also, being daylight sensitive wasn't the point. The point was being able to see the monsters before they arrive. Since most enemies have Darkvision, they would generally prefer to arrive under the cover of night, when they can see and their targets can't. None of this is impossible. It just is usually not bothered with so people can just pretend DnD looks exactly like medieval fantasy europe.</blockquote>

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