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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8181615" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Except they didn't. Without any explanation as to why, we can't assume they are proficient in crossbows.And that entire section is talking about proficiencies for player characters.&nbsp; Using &quot;people&quot; to refer to characters who may not be human and may be any gender. I'm sorry, any commoner with no training can use any simple weapon with proficiency, but a person with training can't? Why because Sorcerers must train so hard to use their inborn natural magic that requires no training? Somehow in the course of learning magic they forget their ability to use all manner of weapons? Also, what possible religious reason is there that Druid's can't use Greatclubs? Or Light Hammers? Or Shortbows? Nothing in the anything tells us that they can't use these weapons do to religious restrictions. And, of course, still ignoring the fact that shortbows are given to elves (oh wait, you said that had to be a mistake) and hand axes, and Light Hammers are given to Dwarves, despite according to you every single commoner already being proficient in those weapons. Man, that is a lot of mistakes.Yeah... like the rules.Seriously. My god man, you want to call a strawman because you only want the vast majority of people and not literally every single person... That isn't even close to a strawman. You do know that, colloquailly, &quot;Everyone&quot; doesn't mean literally every single person? It leaves open space for exception.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8181615, member: 6801228"] Except they didn't. Without any explanation as to why, we can't assume they are proficient in crossbows. And that entire section is talking about proficiencies for player characters. Using "people" to refer to characters who may not be human and may be any gender. I'm sorry, any commoner with no training can use any simple weapon with proficiency, but a person with training can't? Why because Sorcerers must train so hard to use their inborn natural magic that requires no training? Somehow in the course of learning magic they forget their ability to use all manner of weapons? Also, what possible religious reason is there that Druid's can't use Greatclubs? Or Light Hammers? Or Shortbows? Nothing in the anything tells us that they can't use these weapons do to religious restrictions. And, of course, still ignoring the fact that shortbows are given to elves (oh wait, you said that had to be a mistake) and hand axes, and Light Hammers are given to Dwarves, despite according to you every single commoner already being proficient in those weapons. Man, that is a lot of mistakes. Yeah... like the rules. Seriously. My god man, you want to call a strawman because you only want the vast majority of people and not literally every single person... That isn't even close to a strawman. You do know that, colloquailly, "Everyone" doesn't mean literally every single person? It leaves open space for exception. [/QUOTE]

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