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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 8183334" data-attributes="member: 11760">More general thoughts on halflings and gnomes:With the 5E subrace structure, they could easily be one race. In Praemal, the world of Ptolus, the general public can't tell the difference between them at a glance. (Remember, Ptolus was a 3E world, with slender halflings rather than hobbits.) I was one of the people who strongly disliked the demotion of gnomes in 4E, but this would have been a good compromise in 5E for those who don't find a need for two plucky little guy races.I would also bring back the D&amp;D Next kender subrace of halflings. Mechanically, a kender isn't all that different than the existing 5E halflings -- the hate mostly stems from earlier editions of the game, especially 1E and 2E, meaning that there are people who've grown up and had kids who are now playing D&amp;D who've never encountered a toxic kender player. (And those toxic kender players have no doubt moved on to other sorts of disruptive character types -- it was never about the race, and always about the player.)That said, the suggestion upthread that gnomes be a subrace of dwarves isn't bad, either, particularly for a D&amp;D game more closely aligned with 1E and BD&amp;D flavors.I personally think there's plenty to differentiate the two races and find them both fun in play and to include in my games as a DM. If you don't like them or don't find them fleshed out adequately, you can treat them like I do the dragonborn and just ... ignore them.Which is what both the halflings and gnomes would prefer you do anyway, thank you very much.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 8183334, member: 11760"] More general thoughts on halflings and gnomes: With the 5E subrace structure, they could easily be one race. In Praemal, the world of Ptolus, the general public can't tell the difference between them at a glance. (Remember, Ptolus was a 3E world, with slender halflings rather than hobbits.) I was one of the people who strongly disliked the demotion of gnomes in 4E, but this would have been a good compromise in 5E for those who don't find a need for two plucky little guy races. I would also bring back the D&D Next kender subrace of halflings. Mechanically, a kender isn't all that different than the existing 5E halflings -- the hate mostly stems from earlier editions of the game, especially 1E and 2E, meaning that there are people who've grown up and had kids who are now playing D&D who've never encountered a toxic kender player. (And those toxic kender players have no doubt moved on to other sorts of disruptive character types -- it was never about the race, and always about the player.) That said, the suggestion upthread that gnomes be a subrace of dwarves isn't bad, either, particularly for a D&D game more closely aligned with 1E and BD&D flavors. I personally think there's plenty to differentiate the two races and find them both fun in play and to include in my games as a DM. If you don't like them or don't find them fleshed out adequately, you can treat them like I do the dragonborn and just ... ignore them. Which is what both the halflings and gnomes would prefer you do anyway, thank you very much. [/QUOTE]

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