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why do we have halflings and gnomes?
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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8183954" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Halflings love good food and a warm hearth. </p><p></p><p>So, they would have fires for dinner. Fires for breakfast. Possibly fires for noon. Are there blacksmiths in that halfling shire? Then they would be having fires running fairly consistently. Smoking food? That makes smoke. </p><p></p><p>Sure, I guess you could get lucky enough that over a dozen fires going near simultaneously multiple times a day would go unnoticed, but that is a level of luck that is nearly absurd. </p><p></p><p>And, if with that level of luck, as you say, the village would still be attacked. So, it doesn't even matter that no one can find the village, because eventually someone does find the village.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, I don't really know how to respond to this. </p><p></p><p>You agreed with me that all of this running and hiding isn't in the book. This constant refrain you've started since finishing the arguments on the halfling fighting ability of "well then they would hide" which is never mentioned. </p><p></p><p>Then you accuse me of wanting to suicide run them, which I never claimed. I was saying your claim was unsupported, that I backed the opposite claim to the point of absurdity. </p><p></p><p>But, I think the biggest thing, the thing that sticks out to me was this line "I was again using logic". This sticks out to me, because every time you are "using logic" you are stepping outside of what the book tells us and applying your own standards to it. You are altering some facet of the narrative we are given. "Halflings are said to only use rocks and stick." "Well, LOGICALLY. they wouldn't do that and they would have access to better weapons." "Halfings aren't really portrayed as running and hiding all the time." "Well, LOGICALLY, they would because they are good at it and it is the proper response to an overwhelming threat"</p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem is, that all of your "LOGICALLY"'s exist in the space where the lore is incomplete. Where it doesn't make sense. Every time you use logic to tell me how it clearly would be, you are proving my point that the lore is incomplete, that it doesn't make sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8183954, member: 6801228"] Halflings love good food and a warm hearth. So, they would have fires for dinner. Fires for breakfast. Possibly fires for noon. Are there blacksmiths in that halfling shire? Then they would be having fires running fairly consistently. Smoking food? That makes smoke. Sure, I guess you could get lucky enough that over a dozen fires going near simultaneously multiple times a day would go unnoticed, but that is a level of luck that is nearly absurd. And, if with that level of luck, as you say, the village would still be attacked. So, it doesn't even matter that no one can find the village, because eventually someone does find the village. So, I don't really know how to respond to this. You agreed with me that all of this running and hiding isn't in the book. This constant refrain you've started since finishing the arguments on the halfling fighting ability of "well then they would hide" which is never mentioned. Then you accuse me of wanting to suicide run them, which I never claimed. I was saying your claim was unsupported, that I backed the opposite claim to the point of absurdity. But, I think the biggest thing, the thing that sticks out to me was this line "I was again using logic". This sticks out to me, because every time you are "using logic" you are stepping outside of what the book tells us and applying your own standards to it. You are altering some facet of the narrative we are given. "Halflings are said to only use rocks and stick." "Well, LOGICALLY. they wouldn't do that and they would have access to better weapons." "Halfings aren't really portrayed as running and hiding all the time." "Well, LOGICALLY, they would because they are good at it and it is the proper response to an overwhelming threat" The problem is, that all of your "LOGICALLY"'s exist in the space where the lore is incomplete. Where it doesn't make sense. Every time you use logic to tell me how it clearly would be, you are proving my point that the lore is incomplete, that it doesn't make sense. [/QUOTE]
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