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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8186679" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Darksun of all places has the Forest Ridge that is <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=dark+sun+forest+ridge+jungle&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS859US859&oq=dark+sun+forest+ridge+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i57j69i60l2.7224j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank">often described</a> as a "dense jungle" both online & in some of the source books but the darksun wiki is underdeveloped & I couldn't find a page for it</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Eberron has <a href="https://eberron.fandom.com/wiki/Xen%27drik" target="_blank">Xen'drik</a></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">FR even has Chult & <a href="https://dnd.wizards.com/products/tabletop-games/rpg-products/tomb-annihilation" target="_blank">ToA</a> took place there, I believe that's the most written on it</li> </ul><p>Greyhawk was pretty much "medieval Europe with magic stapled on haphazardly" as you phrased it. FR was pretty much created to be a legally distinct version of greyhawk with the serial numbers scratched off & thus pretty much falls under the same banner. Plausible deniability only goes so far though, when you start declaring that halflings are sustenance farmers (grain/root vegetables/fruits/etc they eat) who also farm exotic spices harvest silk & so plausibility has been run through the shredder lit on fire & fired into the sun. </p><p></p><p>Not really, when plot armor is needed to defend the question of why the plot armor surrounding a race is putting limits on free will of other creatures to the point that it strips the ability to apply even moderate levels of <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MostWritersAreHuman" target="_blank">most writers are human</a> to motives & goals that intersect with halflings there are problems rippling out from the resulting <a href="https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StarfishAliens" target="_blank">starfish aliens</a> as we keep seeing from the continued attempts to play up "what about monsters on par with wolves/bears/etc or bandits" being played up as some kind of world being set up to murder halflings.</p><p></p><p>elves & dwarves despite lower birth rates than some other races tend to be more advanced in craftsmanship, magic item creation, smithing, urban dwelling, arcane or divine magic, known for having proud military traditions & so on. As [USER=63508]@Minigiant[/USER] mentioned, they embrace the tropes & make them their own while the phb halflings put in effort to avoid them. </p><p></p><p> Halflings present in settings that are not just "medieval Europe with magic stapled on haphazardly" don't have the same problems but the phb being exclusive to the halflings of settings that are "medieval Europe with magic stapled on haphazardly" makes it harder to just dismiss the phb halflings as something that maybe exists in small pockets part of other more advanced civilizations</p><p></p><p>"monsters" on par with wolves bears moose and even possible bandits simply <em>existing</em> in numbers greater than zero hardly amount to "a world that specifically destroys phb halflings". While I'm not really sure what raptorians are other than google suggesting <em>maybe</em> something related to my little pony, but here's a picture of a halfling riding a clawfoot(raptor) while battling a displacer beast.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]132074[/ATTACH]</p><p>If not for all of that grass & the knowledge that it was used to show a talenta plains halfling in an eberron book I'd say it could <em>possibly</em> represent a darksun halfling with some of the "<em>monster"</em> aspects dialed back too</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8186679, member: 93670"] [LIST] [*]Darksun of all places has the Forest Ridge that is [URL='https://www.google.com/search?q=dark+sun+forest+ridge+jungle&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS859US859&oq=dark+sun+forest+ridge+&aqs=chrome.0.69i59l2j69i57j69i60l2.7224j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8']often described[/URL] as a "dense jungle" both online & in some of the source books but the darksun wiki is underdeveloped & I couldn't find a page for it [*]Eberron has [URL='https://eberron.fandom.com/wiki/Xen%27drik']Xen'drik[/URL] [*]FR even has Chult & [URL='https://dnd.wizards.com/products/tabletop-games/rpg-products/tomb-annihilation']ToA[/URL] took place there, I believe that's the most written on it [/LIST] Greyhawk was pretty much "medieval Europe with magic stapled on haphazardly" as you phrased it. FR was pretty much created to be a legally distinct version of greyhawk with the serial numbers scratched off & thus pretty much falls under the same banner. Plausible deniability only goes so far though, when you start declaring that halflings are sustenance farmers (grain/root vegetables/fruits/etc they eat) who also farm exotic spices harvest silk & so plausibility has been run through the shredder lit on fire & fired into the sun. Not really, when plot armor is needed to defend the question of why the plot armor surrounding a race is putting limits on free will of other creatures to the point that it strips the ability to apply even moderate levels of [URL='https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MostWritersAreHuman']most writers are human[/URL] to motives & goals that intersect with halflings there are problems rippling out from the resulting [URL='https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StarfishAliens']starfish aliens[/URL] as we keep seeing from the continued attempts to play up "what about monsters on par with wolves/bears/etc or bandits" being played up as some kind of world being set up to murder halflings. elves & dwarves despite lower birth rates than some other races tend to be more advanced in craftsmanship, magic item creation, smithing, urban dwelling, arcane or divine magic, known for having proud military traditions & so on. As [USER=63508]@Minigiant[/USER] mentioned, they embrace the tropes & make them their own while the phb halflings put in effort to avoid them. Halflings present in settings that are not just "medieval Europe with magic stapled on haphazardly" don't have the same problems but the phb being exclusive to the halflings of settings that are "medieval Europe with magic stapled on haphazardly" makes it harder to just dismiss the phb halflings as something that maybe exists in small pockets part of other more advanced civilizations "monsters" on par with wolves bears moose and even possible bandits simply [I]existing[/I] in numbers greater than zero hardly amount to "a world that specifically destroys phb halflings". While I'm not really sure what raptorians are other than google suggesting [I]maybe[/I] something related to my little pony, but here's a picture of a halfling riding a clawfoot(raptor) while battling a displacer beast. [ATTACH type="full"]132074[/ATTACH] If not for all of that grass & the knowledge that it was used to show a talenta plains halfling in an eberron book I'd say it could [I]possibly[/I] represent a darksun halfling with some of the "[I]monster"[/I] aspects dialed back too [/QUOTE]
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