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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8190292" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Practical Camouflage? You mentioned them hiding an entire village and their farms and their farm animals with &quot;earthworks&quot;. It can't be a wall, because I suggested walls and was told to stop making halflings militant. So, you are talking about building a hill. Yes, that is a thing people have done. No, I wouldn't call it practical. You mentioned them hiding behind trees. Well, to be a thick enough set of trees, it would need to be a forest yes? Otherwise when that group of bandits steps off the road into the trees to lay an ambush, they'll step right into the halfling village.So, either they grow their own forest, or they find one. The 50 acres was a measurement for being able to have houses and &quot;large farms&quot; for 50 halflings. 50 acres is a lot of forest to clear. They can't just have farms without clearing the forest, the trees would prevent the crops from growing. And, when we know groups like goblins and orcs travel through forests and take up residence in abandoned castles, how does being in the forest protect the halflings? Sure, maybe they grow a thick wall of ivy and bushes to make going into their part of the forest nearly impossible... but how thick would it have to be? How deep in the forest are they if they still need to leave occasionally to trade with people for goods? You accuse me of bringing too much baggage, but you seem to just want to declare &quot;Earthworks!&quot; and I'm suppsoed to nod and say &quot;ah yes, of course that camoflauge could hide them&quot; without pressing for how you think that is going to prevent a goblin from climbing a hill and seeing them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8190292, member: 6801228"] Practical Camouflage? You mentioned them hiding an entire village and their farms and their farm animals with "earthworks". It can't be a wall, because I suggested walls and was told to stop making halflings militant. So, you are talking about building a hill. Yes, that is a thing people have done. No, I wouldn't call it practical. You mentioned them hiding behind trees. Well, to be a thick enough set of trees, it would need to be a forest yes? Otherwise when that group of bandits steps off the road into the trees to lay an ambush, they'll step right into the halfling village. So, either they grow their own forest, or they find one. The 50 acres was a measurement for being able to have houses and "large farms" for 50 halflings. 50 acres is a lot of forest to clear. They can't just have farms without clearing the forest, the trees would prevent the crops from growing. And, when we know groups like goblins and orcs travel through forests and take up residence in abandoned castles, how does being in the forest protect the halflings? Sure, maybe they grow a thick wall of ivy and bushes to make going into their part of the forest nearly impossible... but how thick would it have to be? How deep in the forest are they if they still need to leave occasionally to trade with people for goods? You accuse me of bringing too much baggage, but you seem to just want to declare "Earthworks!" and I'm suppsoed to nod and say "ah yes, of course that camoflauge could hide them" without pressing for how you think that is going to prevent a goblin from climbing a hill and seeing them. [/QUOTE]

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