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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gammadoodler" data-source="post: 8191398" data-attributes="member: 6914290">So, to clarify the branches of the conversation I have been involved with and my position on them, and where we differ. 1. Halflings can survive adequately within the setting with a similar amount of fantasy handwaving as other races. (I was the person who originally brought up fantasy plants). [USER=23751]@Maxperson[/USER] ,[USER=6801845]@Oofta[/USER] , [USER=4881]@Sabathius42[/USER] , and [USER=6906155]@Paul Farquhar[/USER]  seem to agree, though the nature of handwaving may differ.You seem to be unwilling to extend that level of handwaving to halflings in any form, and have cited various fantasy logistical, philosophical, or economic "reasons" for this unwillingness. 2. Specifically related to gnomes vs. halflings. I asserted that, based on their core racial featuresand some extrapolation, it is not unreasonable that halflings could accomplish through skill what gnomes do through magic. You went out of your way to "demonstrate" how this could not be so (though I haven't yet seen how you've demonstrated that the Gnomish version works: near as I can tell you've gotten to the word "illusionist" and stopped there)And at various times folks have brought their own points of view or their own topical interests into the conversation, much in the same way that [USER=93670]@tetrasodium[/USER]  and [USER=63508]@Minigiant[/USER] have. As it relates to Paul and the dwarf thing, IIRC their original reply was to me. It did expand the discussion beyond halflings and gnomes, but it's not like this was a new strand of topic I was barging into, and it at least somewhat relates to both of the bullets above. As it relates to Max and Oofta, we likely haven't gotten into side debates regarding stealth/safe halfling villages, because we all get to the same result, whatever the methods, and all of the methods boil down to some version of fantasy logic, and arguing fantasy logic is silly if the result is the same.</blockquote>

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