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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8192884" data-attributes="member: 23751">&quot;Fine&quot; implies a level of greed that isn't apparent in the lore.&nbsp; They just want to be happy and enjoy life.&nbsp; They don't need Gucci boots when ordinary comfortable boots will do.That's a fine Red Herring that's entirely irrelevant to whether or not the race has them.No.&nbsp; They can only have feats if the DM engages the explicitly optional feat rule.&nbsp; Without the DM engaging that rule, the players can make a million alt-human PCs and not one of them will have a feat.Stop engaging in them and I will stop calling you out for them.You can't teach innate abilities.&nbsp; They're...........innate.&nbsp; Did your mother teach you how to beat your heart or does it just beat on its own?&nbsp; Your heartbeat is innate.&nbsp; You're ability to write Strawmen here was taught to you.And then she gave them their innate abilities through divine power.&nbsp; Those are not mutually exclusive things.I read it.&nbsp; Teaching them how to hide =/= innate magic.&nbsp; Teaching them how to cast spells like wizards =/= innate magic.&nbsp; Teaching them how to deceive foes =/= innate magic.&nbsp; Granting them innate magic via divine power = innate magic.That doesn't say what you think it does.&nbsp; It does seem to imply that he feels Mordenkainen's is crappy.&nbsp; It doesn't say that he wants to limit things to the PHB only.You were not right about gnomes being taught their innate magic. I called you out for attributing Oofta's quote to me, and so on.And I will call you out for this misrepresenstation as well.&nbsp; I never said 0%.&nbsp; I said NEAR 0%.&nbsp;&nbsp; You do occasionally get it right.Raiders raid for wealth, dude.&nbsp; They want the yellow metal and jewels.&nbsp; The ceramic teapot will be ground underfoot while they search for actual loot.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8192884, member: 23751"] "Fine" implies a level of greed that isn't apparent in the lore. They just want to be happy and enjoy life. They don't need Gucci boots when ordinary comfortable boots will do. That's a fine Red Herring that's entirely irrelevant to whether or not the race has them. No. They can only have feats if the DM engages the explicitly optional feat rule. Without the DM engaging that rule, the players can make a million alt-human PCs and not one of them will have a feat. Stop engaging in them and I will stop calling you out for them. You can't teach innate abilities. They're...........innate. Did your mother teach you how to beat your heart or does it just beat on its own? Your heartbeat is innate. You're ability to write Strawmen here was taught to you. And then she gave them their innate abilities through divine power. Those are not mutually exclusive things. I read it. Teaching them how to hide =/= innate magic. Teaching them how to cast spells like wizards =/= innate magic. Teaching them how to deceive foes =/= innate magic. Granting them innate magic via divine power = innate magic. That doesn't say what you think it does. It does seem to imply that he feels Mordenkainen's is crappy. It doesn't say that he wants to limit things to the PHB only. You were not right about gnomes being taught their innate magic. I called you out for attributing Oofta's quote to me, and so on. And I will call you out for this misrepresenstation as well. I never said 0%. I said NEAR 0%. You do occasionally get it right. Raiders raid for wealth, dude. They want the yellow metal and jewels. The ceramic teapot will be ground underfoot while they search for actual loot. [/QUOTE]

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