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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8193139" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Dude, what is with you and your bizarre definition of greed? No, "fine quality" does not imply any level of greed whatsoever, it implies a level of quality. And, while you may sell something of fine quality for money, you can also make something of fine quality because you care about what you are making, and make it to the best of your ability. Halflings aren't some aesetic community who are going to look at a finely crafted cane and say "Well, that is just too ostentatious, a rotting stick will do just as well, who are we if not simple folk?" I don't know what your obsession with greed is, but it clearly goes beyond normal definitions if it includes "using coins" and "making fine quality goods". I didn't even say high quality, just fine.The provable fact that not all Deep Gnomes have that magic is a Red Herring that is irrelevant to whether or not all Deep Gnomes have that magic.... How about no.I see, so now it matters whether or not the DM allows feats, but it doesn't matter for the Deep Gnome Magic feat... because you say so. Classic argument "your version doesn't count, but my version does count, so you are wrong" So. It specifically says they were taught magic by this god. But, you've decided that a God teaching something that is innate is impossible, I mean what are they, a god? Therefore, instead of excepting what the book says (a book which you still claim I haven't read, and that I must except unconditionally) you are going to make up your own version, oh, and your version is the version you read. And then, because you make up your own version, and your version is the only version that is real, I'm wrong, because the book only says what you want it to say, and I engage in strawmen. I mean, I even offered an explanation for them being taught magic, and that magic becoming innate, something that has happened in DnD lore, where communities of high magic concentration gain innate magical powers (they are called "sorcerers" though I'm sure you'll tell me how wrong I am) which allows it to both be taught and innate. But it doesn't make me wrong, so that can't be what the book says, right? I mean, we need to use logic, except when I do it, because then the book disagrees with me and I'm wrong.Dude, I flat told you it was just the first quote of his I found, and that I was not digging through the thread to educate you on what other posters have been saying. How about this, if you so badly want to prove your own absolute statement that "no one" has claimed something, how about you go and do the research. Go and pull up every post of his, and breakdown exactly what he meant and throw it in my face with your obsession with hyper-precise language that only means what you want it to mean.I was right. I didn't attribute the quote to you. and so on and so on.Right because clearly being correct about 4 things in the last seven days would be near 0%? Oh wait, you just have no idea what I was saying, because you are obsessed with me being wrong and broke my post into smaller chunks.Congrats, you missed my point and are misrepresenting me. Again. And you were wrong, again.Which shows you have clearly not read anything about goblin lairs. How about you go educate yourself then, maybe read some adventures and the like, since not all raiders are as obsessed with gold and jewels as you are.</blockquote>

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