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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8194551" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Cutting a lot of this, because I'm getting exhausted covering the same ground over and over. </p><p></p><p>Regarding Hobbits... No because that was the point. </p><p></p><p>The point of Hobbits were that they were the idyllic simple folk that could save the world from the evils of power and industrialization. No one else could carry the ring, because no one else was so pure. If the world had been full of hobbits, Sauron's evil would never had grown and infected Rohan, Gondor, and the other powers of the world. </p><p></p><p>And that works for a story trying to make a point. That works for symbolism to have a bubble world where we can point and say "this is how all people should be". But it doesn't work for DnD. </p><p></p><p>DnD isn't a story that we tell to show that the best people are simple folk with no ambitions. The very fundamental genetics of DnD fight back against this assertion. DnD worlds don't have orcs as corrupted elves for purposes of duology and symbolism. They don't have the king fall into immediate paranoia to show the evils of greed and money. They don't contrast the evils of industrialism with the good and pure of nature. </p><p></p><p>You can do some of this, but DnD isn't built for that. And so, having halflings in their own bubble, unlike all the rest of the world, is strange. Why are they over there? Why aren't they like anyone else? Are we really saying that all of our adventures and seeking of power and influence are wrong and the root of the evils of the world, soon to be corrupted and twisted to foul ends because we aren't simple farm folk? </p><p></p><p>Tolkien =/= DnD. They don't work the same way, they aren't serving the same purpose. And that is the biggest issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8194551, member: 6801228"] Cutting a lot of this, because I'm getting exhausted covering the same ground over and over. Regarding Hobbits... No because that was the point. The point of Hobbits were that they were the idyllic simple folk that could save the world from the evils of power and industrialization. No one else could carry the ring, because no one else was so pure. If the world had been full of hobbits, Sauron's evil would never had grown and infected Rohan, Gondor, and the other powers of the world. And that works for a story trying to make a point. That works for symbolism to have a bubble world where we can point and say "this is how all people should be". But it doesn't work for DnD. DnD isn't a story that we tell to show that the best people are simple folk with no ambitions. The very fundamental genetics of DnD fight back against this assertion. DnD worlds don't have orcs as corrupted elves for purposes of duology and symbolism. They don't have the king fall into immediate paranoia to show the evils of greed and money. They don't contrast the evils of industrialism with the good and pure of nature. You can do some of this, but DnD isn't built for that. And so, having halflings in their own bubble, unlike all the rest of the world, is strange. Why are they over there? Why aren't they like anyone else? Are we really saying that all of our adventures and seeking of power and influence are wrong and the root of the evils of the world, soon to be corrupted and twisted to foul ends because we aren't simple farm folk? Tolkien =/= DnD. They don't work the same way, they aren't serving the same purpose. And that is the biggest issue. [/QUOTE]
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