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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8194559" data-attributes="member: 23751">Do you know what innate means?  And it does not say that they were taught their innate magic.  Nowhere.  You're inventing a Strawman for the books now.  Is there no line that you wouldn't cross to be right on the internet?It has to do with teach vs. innate and what those two things mean.  D&D 5e specifically uses common word usages and you are murdering those in your efforts to be right.  You aren't.  You are wrong.  You are literally claiming that Baravar taught them the equivalent of a heartbeat.Because arcane magic is the sort they are best at and it's the only sort of arcane magic(so far) that you can be taught. I suppose she could have taught them prayers for divine magic, but she certainly did not teach them innate magic, since innate magic can't be taught.  Sorcerers are not taught to use their magic. At all. Period. They gain an innate understanding of how to use it.  Again, your lack of understanding of what innate means seems to be working against you here."One can't study sorcery as one learns a language, any more than one can learn to live a legendary life. No one chooses sorcery; the power chooses the sorcerer."Interrestingly, one of the ways to explain where Sorcery comes from is the gift of a god.  Not teaching, but gift.  You can't teach innate ability. And yet you deliberately cut out the rest of that passage that says that because of that practice, almost every village has a full blown Illusionist and apprentices, showing that the practice is with wizardry, not innate magic.They suck at raiding.  They're goblins.  They also take over abandoned mines and such, and would have that sort of stuff to scavenge from the abandoned areas.</blockquote>

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