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why do we have halflings and gnomes?
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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8197240" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>When their gods actively protect them harm, actively make their crops grow more than is natural, the human king gives them unique exemptions to taxes.... What else would you like me to call it?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which means halflings can't exist as written without being protected by the bigger races. </p><p></p><p>Top four race for adventurers, can't survive as written without other people to protect them from harm.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Missing the point to say "but the party prevents the apocalypse" when I'm talking about NPC stuff and setting the tone.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sorry, how are they not protected by humans? You literally just said they don't need to worry about a literal army of the undead being lead by a King of the Dead because the humans will take care of it. </p><p></p><p>That is about as blatant as a "protected by humans" as you can get.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, nothing like relatable motivations to make the game boring.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Wanderlust and curiosity are fine motivators for people leaving home. However, that doesn't change the fundamental problem.</p><p></p><p>Let me ask you this, have you seen Guardians of the Galaxy? The scene where they are talking about why to deal with the threat of Ronin? And the argument that convinces them is "Because I live here."?</p><p></p><p>That is a common response. Why should we tackle this threat? Because it is threatening our homes, the people we love, things we care about are at risk. But, if you have a halfling in the party, they are unconcerned with that. They could head home and their home would be safe. They can tell the DM that the lore says that the halflings are protected, this threat won't touch them. Sure, maybe you want to say "that makes them even more heroic and good, they are willing to fight for others even when they are safe" but that just makes them better people than the humans and elves and dwarves. Because those greedy ambitious races are fighting to protect their homes, but the humble halfling is fighting to protect other people's homes. </p><p></p><p>Which again... sounds like a Mary Sue, doesn't it? Always having to be better than everyone else. </p><p></p><p>That's why I don't like these bubble shires. They ruin the narrative by insisting that halflings are more special than everyone else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8197240, member: 6801228"] When their gods actively protect them harm, actively make their crops grow more than is natural, the human king gives them unique exemptions to taxes.... What else would you like me to call it? Which means halflings can't exist as written without being protected by the bigger races. Top four race for adventurers, can't survive as written without other people to protect them from harm. Missing the point to say "but the party prevents the apocalypse" when I'm talking about NPC stuff and setting the tone. I'm sorry, how are they not protected by humans? You literally just said they don't need to worry about a literal army of the undead being lead by a King of the Dead because the humans will take care of it. That is about as blatant as a "protected by humans" as you can get. Yeah, nothing like relatable motivations to make the game boring. Wanderlust and curiosity are fine motivators for people leaving home. However, that doesn't change the fundamental problem. Let me ask you this, have you seen Guardians of the Galaxy? The scene where they are talking about why to deal with the threat of Ronin? And the argument that convinces them is "Because I live here."? That is a common response. Why should we tackle this threat? Because it is threatening our homes, the people we love, things we care about are at risk. But, if you have a halfling in the party, they are unconcerned with that. They could head home and their home would be safe. They can tell the DM that the lore says that the halflings are protected, this threat won't touch them. Sure, maybe you want to say "that makes them even more heroic and good, they are willing to fight for others even when they are safe" but that just makes them better people than the humans and elves and dwarves. Because those greedy ambitious races are fighting to protect their homes, but the humble halfling is fighting to protect other people's homes. Which again... sounds like a Mary Sue, doesn't it? Always having to be better than everyone else. That's why I don't like these bubble shires. They ruin the narrative by insisting that halflings are more special than everyone else. [/QUOTE]
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