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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8201095" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>It's a bad mishmash resulting from attempting to combine the fighter & rogue tables in an early edition to recreate a character from a book series called "the destroyer" that was pretty much james bond/david carradine's kwai chag kaine.</p><p>[spoiler="Here's a video about the mostly awful history"]</p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]3V32HuI7lI0[/MEDIA]</p><p>I talk about it a little more in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/monk-buff-suggestion.674205/post-8070518" target="_blank">this</a> post/thread</p><p>[/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>Yes and it's awful because of how jarring it is to insert into so many settings. Monk really only fits if they are narrated as engaging in all kinds of wirefu & such but that really only fits a game where everyone is narrated as doing that. Personally I can't wait till a5e replaces it with IForgetTheName as the barbarian>berserker gave a great example of avoiding the those sort of setting specific class problems.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A collection of asian cultural stereotypes from a 50 year old <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_(1972_TV_series)" target="_blank">tv show</a> starring written & directed by americans. Of course these days that show hasn't even been in daytime rerun filler for so long that a sizable chunk of d&d players can only look at the actual class & point at the mocking stereotype known as <a href="https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Rock_Lee" target="_blank">rock lee</a> trying to be other cool martial artists</p><p></p><p>As [USER=7020832]@FrozenNorth[/USER] mentioned, that's why it is so important for the race writeup to be done well & I'll add to it by saying that it's important for the phb to also be written in a way that makes it fit the various wotc owned settings. In the case of gnomes the phb pretty much fits greyhawk & fr gnomes, darksun gnomes are either wayyyy better at hiding than given credit because everyone thinks they were killed off in the cleansing wars while eberron gomes are extended in a few interesting ways not <em>too</em> problematic to hang from the base phb hook even if it could be done better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8201095, member: 93670"] It's a bad mishmash resulting from attempting to combine the fighter & rogue tables in an early edition to recreate a character from a book series called "the destroyer" that was pretty much james bond/david carradine's kwai chag kaine. [spoiler="Here's a video about the mostly awful history"] [MEDIA=youtube]3V32HuI7lI0[/MEDIA] I talk about it a little more in [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/monk-buff-suggestion.674205/post-8070518']this[/URL] post/thread [/spoiler] Yes and it's awful because of how jarring it is to insert into so many settings. Monk really only fits if they are narrated as engaging in all kinds of wirefu & such but that really only fits a game where everyone is narrated as doing that. Personally I can't wait till a5e replaces it with IForgetTheName as the barbarian>berserker gave a great example of avoiding the those sort of setting specific class problems. A collection of asian cultural stereotypes from a 50 year old [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_(1972_TV_series)']tv show[/URL] starring written & directed by americans. Of course these days that show hasn't even been in daytime rerun filler for so long that a sizable chunk of d&d players can only look at the actual class & point at the mocking stereotype known as [URL='https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Rock_Lee']rock lee[/URL] trying to be other cool martial artists As [USER=7020832]@FrozenNorth[/USER] mentioned, that's why it is so important for the race writeup to be done well & I'll add to it by saying that it's important for the phb to also be written in a way that makes it fit the various wotc owned settings. In the case of gnomes the phb pretty much fits greyhawk & fr gnomes, darksun gnomes are either wayyyy better at hiding than given credit because everyone thinks they were killed off in the cleansing wars while eberron gomes are extended in a few interesting ways not [I]too[/I] problematic to hang from the base phb hook even if it could be done better. [/QUOTE]
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