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<blockquote data-quote="Ulfgeir" data-source="post: 7900320" data-attributes="member: 7015719">Well, the ones that comes to mind:* Old World of Darkness - Especially vampire (Claimed to be about personal horror, but the rules made into superbeings with claws and teeth). And the claim that the separate games were not in the same world, even though it was obvious they were. And then of coure the incompatible rules between the different games.* Exalted 2e: A system that is broken by even White Wolfs standards..&nbsp; You have a gazillion separate rules for how things for every bloody charm.&nbsp; And if you didn't have perfect defences, then you were screwed. And again rules that were different depending on what type of exalted you played.* Shadowrun. Cumbersome systems with multiple separate subsystems.* Eclipe Phase 1e. You needed custom-made spreadsheets to make a character to take into effect all the varying costs and limits based upon what you were and what kind of sleeve you had. You were supposed to switch often, and then had had to redo everything...Edit:&nbsp; I love the setting of Shadowrun, but I hate the system. I thought FASA was bad at making rules-systems, the current makers are worse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ulfgeir, post: 7900320, member: 7015719"] Well, the ones that comes to mind: * Old World of Darkness - Especially vampire (Claimed to be about personal horror, but the rules made into superbeings with claws and teeth). And the claim that the separate games were not in the same world, even though it was obvious they were. And then of coure the incompatible rules between the different games. * Exalted 2e: A system that is broken by even White Wolfs standards.. You have a gazillion separate rules for how things for every bloody charm. And if you didn't have perfect defences, then you were screwed. And again rules that were different depending on what type of exalted you played. * Shadowrun. Cumbersome systems with multiple separate subsystems. * Eclipe Phase 1e. You needed custom-made spreadsheets to make a character to take into effect all the varying costs and limits based upon what you were and what kind of sleeve you had. You were supposed to switch often, and then had had to redo everything... Edit: I love the setting of Shadowrun, but I hate the system. I thought FASA was bad at making rules-systems, the current makers are worse. [/QUOTE]

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