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<blockquote data-quote="Campbell" data-source="post: 8477010" data-attributes="member: 16586">My experiences have been quite different, but it really does not matter. I don't play in most GM's games and I do not run games for most players. What anyone else does who does not share a table with me is immaterial for the type of games I want to play in and run.I have not been doing this thing for 40 years, but I have for more than 20. I have had to be somewhat selective, but I view that as part of any sort of adult socialization. You have to find people that you are compatible with, who like the same sort of stuff you do. While I do enjoy OSR and challenge oriented play from time to time the vast majority of my roleplaying experience has been in more character focused games. I know the process I use can work because I have seen them work. They are not the only processes that work and they might not work for any given group. I don't know what else to say there.It's been our experience that the specter of death gets players to focus too much on being prudent when we are looking for the sort of characters who don't always do the most prudent things. Our games are not adventure games. It's not about overcoming the challenge or what silly stuff we can get away with. It's about playing a game where our characters are deeply embedded into the situation and the stakes are more personal. Having to live with failing to achieve personal objectives, losing NPCs my character cares for, having relationships redefined, losing status all feel harder for me to deal with than any character I have lost in any other game group I have been part of in the past.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Campbell, post: 8477010, member: 16586"] My experiences have been quite different, but it really does not matter. I don't play in most GM's games and I do not run games for most players. What anyone else does who does not share a table with me is immaterial for the type of games I want to play in and run. I have not been doing this thing for 40 years, but I have for more than 20. I have had to be somewhat selective, but I view that as part of any sort of adult socialization. You have to find people that you are compatible with, who like the same sort of stuff you do. While I do enjoy OSR and challenge oriented play from time to time the vast majority of my roleplaying experience has been in more character focused games. I know the process I use can work because I have seen them work. They are not the only processes that work and they might not work for any given group. I don't know what else to say there. It's been our experience that the specter of death gets players to focus too much on being prudent when we are looking for the sort of characters who don't always do the most prudent things. Our games are not adventure games. It's not about overcoming the challenge or what silly stuff we can get away with. It's about playing a game where our characters are deeply embedded into the situation and the stakes are more personal. Having to live with failing to achieve personal objectives, losing NPCs my character cares for, having relationships redefined, losing status all feel harder for me to deal with than any character I have lost in any other game group I have been part of in the past. [/QUOTE]

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