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<blockquote data-quote="Crust" data-source="post: 3349963" data-attributes="member: 22330"><p>His novels aren't classics (yet), but they do satisfy a certain something I desire as a reader.</p><p></p><p>RAS' FR novels, to me, seem to exist outside the FR library itself, as if his books are taking place in an alternate past or dimension. His books are total pulp, like comic books with no pictures. Not that I think he's a poor writer. He really knows how to set up a scene, especially a fight scene (<em>Road of the Patriarch </em> and <em>Starless Night </em> are good examples of that). I don't think my adrenaline pumped harder while reading FR than when Drizzt, Catti-brie, Entreri, and Guen fled the Underdark in <em>Starless Night</em>.</p><p></p><p>He's often almost quoted the PHB and DMG (which I hate seeing but love finding), and the magic level in his books seems low (the Obould ritual with the bull and the cat is an obvious example - +4 to at least Str and Dex) when compared to the likes of Greenwood, but the combat is high. With the movies that are out today (Crouching Tiger and its offspring, Matrix, LotR, etc.), you'd think Drizzt would be a prime target for a film.</p><p></p><p>I agree that the introspective journal entries are a waste. It got really bad when Drizzt's journals started appearing in novels <em>that don't even feature Drizzt</em>. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p>The fight scenes are too damn meticulous. Yes, I understand Salvatore knows his stuff concerning dueling and such, but I often have a hard time envisioning Drizzt's scimitars turning over and over, forcing his opponent's sword out wide, only to twist in a cork-screw, reversing the angle of his blades in a cross-down cut... :\ </p><p></p><p>Yes he defeated a dragon, a demon, drow weapon masters, bested a marilith in a one-on-one duel, etc., but he was almost killed by a ogre juiced up on potions (<em>Sea of Swords</em>), and he was also almost killed by an orc barbarian5/fighter4 who may or may not have an additional +4 to each ability score (Obould). Drizzt's combat history/progression is odd to say the least. Maybe he was just having a bad day (or rolling 1s). I was honestly upset that Drizzt didn't defeat Obould at the end of <em>Hunter's Blades</em>. It didn't make sense to me. But then again, who am I, really? Just a fan. It didn't make sense to me that Han Solo would say, "You're a wonderful human being" to Jabba the Hutt, but what do I know? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>Whether you're looking at Drizzt's past in the novels alone, or you're considering the FRCS information, Obould should have been <em>embarrassed </em> by The Hunter, for crying out loud.</p><p></p><p>Hell, I still feel cheated for <em>The Thousand Orcs</em>. There's Drizzt on the cover, surrounded by orcs, dealing death (Drizzt's scimitars worked a deadly dance of death, twisting outward, his body turning around and under his opponent's spear, coming in with a diagonal cross-wise slash, shifting his left foot one half-inch forward and stabbing...), and what do I get? Not that. What a devious, underhanded, downright low thing to do. Didn't anyone say, at some point, "Um, uh, this picture on the front here... It doesn't happen in the novel. Anyone think that'll be a problem?" <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>It's like no one stopped Lucas and told him, "Um, sir, you do realize that Jabba the Hutt is a <em>hutt</em>, not a human being, and therefore what Han Solo says in this scene will make no sense whatsoever." That person would have most likely been fired, but it might have saved <em>Star Wars</em>. How do these things happen?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I'm not giving up on Drizzt. I've invested too much time into him to abandon him now. It's also fun complaining about what happens in the novels, because there's always something, and I'm a fan. </p><p></p><p>In fact, I darn well <em>better </em> see a film in the next ten years. I think Drizzt should be a household name, like the Ninja Turtles or Harry Potter. We've got the miniature, the video game appearances, the graphic novels, <em>Dragons of Autumn Twilight </em> is coming out this year... It's coming.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crust, post: 3349963, member: 22330"] His novels aren't classics (yet), but they do satisfy a certain something I desire as a reader. RAS' FR novels, to me, seem to exist outside the FR library itself, as if his books are taking place in an alternate past or dimension. His books are total pulp, like comic books with no pictures. Not that I think he's a poor writer. He really knows how to set up a scene, especially a fight scene ([I]Road of the Patriarch [/I] and [I]Starless Night [/I] are good examples of that). I don't think my adrenaline pumped harder while reading FR than when Drizzt, Catti-brie, Entreri, and Guen fled the Underdark in [I]Starless Night[/I]. He's often almost quoted the PHB and DMG (which I hate seeing but love finding), and the magic level in his books seems low (the Obould ritual with the bull and the cat is an obvious example - +4 to at least Str and Dex) when compared to the likes of Greenwood, but the combat is high. With the movies that are out today (Crouching Tiger and its offspring, Matrix, LotR, etc.), you'd think Drizzt would be a prime target for a film. I agree that the introspective journal entries are a waste. It got really bad when Drizzt's journals started appearing in novels [I]that don't even feature Drizzt[/I]. :confused: The fight scenes are too damn meticulous. Yes, I understand Salvatore knows his stuff concerning dueling and such, but I often have a hard time envisioning Drizzt's scimitars turning over and over, forcing his opponent's sword out wide, only to twist in a cork-screw, reversing the angle of his blades in a cross-down cut... :\ Yes he defeated a dragon, a demon, drow weapon masters, bested a marilith in a one-on-one duel, etc., but he was almost killed by a ogre juiced up on potions ([I]Sea of Swords[/I]), and he was also almost killed by an orc barbarian5/fighter4 who may or may not have an additional +4 to each ability score (Obould). Drizzt's combat history/progression is odd to say the least. Maybe he was just having a bad day (or rolling 1s). I was honestly upset that Drizzt didn't defeat Obould at the end of [I]Hunter's Blades[/I]. It didn't make sense to me. But then again, who am I, really? Just a fan. It didn't make sense to me that Han Solo would say, "You're a wonderful human being" to Jabba the Hutt, but what do I know? ;) Whether you're looking at Drizzt's past in the novels alone, or you're considering the FRCS information, Obould should have been [I]embarrassed [/I] by The Hunter, for crying out loud. Hell, I still feel cheated for [I]The Thousand Orcs[/I]. There's Drizzt on the cover, surrounded by orcs, dealing death (Drizzt's scimitars worked a deadly dance of death, twisting outward, his body turning around and under his opponent's spear, coming in with a diagonal cross-wise slash, shifting his left foot one half-inch forward and stabbing...), and what do I get? Not that. What a devious, underhanded, downright low thing to do. Didn't anyone say, at some point, "Um, uh, this picture on the front here... It doesn't happen in the novel. Anyone think that'll be a problem?" ;) It's like no one stopped Lucas and told him, "Um, sir, you do realize that Jabba the Hutt is a [I]hutt[/I], not a human being, and therefore what Han Solo says in this scene will make no sense whatsoever." That person would have most likely been fired, but it might have saved [I]Star Wars[/I]. How do these things happen? Anyway, I'm not giving up on Drizzt. I've invested too much time into him to abandon him now. It's also fun complaining about what happens in the novels, because there's always something, and I'm a fan. In fact, I darn well [I]better [/I] see a film in the next ten years. I think Drizzt should be a household name, like the Ninja Turtles or Harry Potter. We've got the miniature, the video game appearances, the graphic novels, [I]Dragons of Autumn Twilight [/I] is coming out this year... It's coming. [/QUOTE]
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