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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 3764934" data-attributes="member: 957">I agree with this statement except that they fall so far short of capturing the idea for me that I can't agree with the &quot;like&quot; part.I love the idea of a golem with a soul.&nbsp; But it wouldn't be mechanically re-built with the arbitrary goal of being playable at first level polluting the original concept into destruction.I'm not certain if I have ever used the term &quot;robots&quot; in a moment of laziness.&nbsp; But android has always been a closer fit for how they come off to me.&nbsp; They really remind me most of all of Star Wars Battle droids a lot more than they make me think of the hebrew golem or Frankenstein's monster.&nbsp; And even if you through out the large number of them as a factor they still come across as more akin to Lt. Cmdr. Data.Make 'em a construct.&nbsp; For starters, get rid of their CON.&nbsp; But don't stop there.&nbsp; Make constructs be constructs.&nbsp; I am personally still uninterested in a campaign world with an entire &quot;race&quot; of these.&nbsp; It completely undermines the coolness of it.&nbsp; But if a player wanted to use Ronin Arts' sentient mechanical race as a unique individual PC I'd be all over it.Sorry, I rambled a little of topic.....They don't seem like robots.&nbsp; But they don't seem like classic fantasy constructs by any means either.&nbsp; And some of the other examples (which I tend to rarely use, if at all) get a big&nbsp; pass from me because they are extraplanar and the form becomes a reflection of &quot;their&quot; reality.&nbsp; Which is a very significant distinction to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 3764934, member: 957"] I agree with this statement except that they fall so far short of capturing the idea for me that I can't agree with the "like" part. I love the idea of a golem with a soul. But it wouldn't be mechanically re-built with the arbitrary goal of being playable at first level polluting the original concept into destruction. I'm not certain if I have ever used the term "robots" in a moment of laziness. But android has always been a closer fit for how they come off to me. They really remind me most of all of Star Wars Battle droids a lot more than they make me think of the hebrew golem or Frankenstein's monster. And even if you through out the large number of them as a factor they still come across as more akin to Lt. Cmdr. Data. Make 'em a construct. For starters, get rid of their CON. But don't stop there. Make constructs be constructs. I am personally still uninterested in a campaign world with an entire "race" of these. It completely undermines the coolness of it. But if a player wanted to use Ronin Arts' sentient mechanical race as a unique individual PC I'd be all over it. Sorry, I rambled a little of topic..... They don't seem like robots. But they don't seem like classic fantasy constructs by any means either. And some of the other examples (which I tend to rarely use, if at all) get a big pass from me because they are extraplanar and the form becomes a reflection of "their" reality. Which is a very significant distinction to me. [/QUOTE]

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