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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 8456088" data-attributes="member: 3400">That's largely my take on it too. It really is about optimization, maybe not the hardest core optimization, but if you're approaching the issue as in needing a &gt;= 16 in your prime stat for that +3 or so rather than a +2 - it's about a significant degree of optimization. If that's your jam, that's your jam. But it is what it is and it's not worth denying it whether you see it as a rose by any other name or a pig with lipstick.As far as playing a thematic all short race game, I'd totally be up for something like that, always have been - with fixed ASIs to boot. I played halfling and half-orc paladins in 3e/PF despite not having the most favorable ASIs so I'm not fussed by them. 5e makes it even easier to do so even with the fixed ASIs in the PH. I'm not bothered too much by Tasha's changes because both approaches have support - fixed for those of us who like to lean-in on the racial package and floating for those who don't. I'm a bit more concerned about the future because it looks like the lean-in groups won't get much consideration.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 8456088, member: 3400"] That's largely my take on it too. It really is about optimization, maybe not the hardest core optimization, but if you're approaching the issue as in needing a >= 16 in your prime stat for that +3 or so rather than a +2 - it's about a significant degree of optimization. If that's your jam, that's your jam. But it is what it is and it's not worth denying it whether you see it as a rose by any other name or a pig with lipstick. As far as playing a thematic all short race game, I'd [B]totally [/B]be up for something like that, always have been - with fixed ASIs to boot. I played halfling and half-orc paladins in 3e/PF despite not having the most favorable ASIs so I'm not fussed by them. 5e makes it even easier to do so even with the fixed ASIs in the PH. I'm not bothered too much by Tasha's changes because both approaches have support - fixed for those of us who like to lean-in on the racial package and floating for those who don't. I'm a bit more concerned about the future because it looks like the lean-in groups won't get much consideration. [/QUOTE]

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