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<blockquote data-quote="Scribe" data-source="post: 8459600" data-attributes="member: 6807152">Race change muddies the water.But if there was a talent, Blood Fury or Will of the Forsaken, and your in a hardcore guild, yeah expect to be benched.Your missing my point.Most tables, just want players, just as most guilds, just want a full raid team.Race choice in wow was (before all the ways blizzard tried to squeeze blood from a stone) a commitment. Talents are not.Race choice in D&amp;D, especially with Floating, is more a personal choice.16s are easily achieved regardless of race, just as selecting the correct talents for raiding, is easy to do, when Tasha's is used.It's about compromise.Is any true hardcore minmax playing going to be satisfied if others don't take VHuman? Probably not.Will someone that feels they need a 16 feel, just a little, others should get that 16 if they can? Yes.Does floating make that trivial? Yes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scribe, post: 8459600, member: 6807152"] Race change muddies the water. But if there was a talent, Blood Fury or Will of the Forsaken, and your in a hardcore guild, yeah expect to be benched. Your missing my point. Most tables, just want players, just as most guilds, just want a full raid team. Race choice in wow was (before all the ways blizzard tried to squeeze blood from a stone) a commitment. Talents are not. Race choice in D&D, especially with Floating, is more a personal choice. 16s are easily achieved regardless of race, just as selecting the correct talents for raiding, is easy to do, when Tasha's is used. It's about compromise. Is any true hardcore minmax playing going to be satisfied if others don't take VHuman? Probably not. Will someone that feels they need a 16 feel, just a little, others should get that 16 if they can? Yes. Does floating make that trivial? Yes. [/QUOTE]

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